The conservatives complain all the time about the news media slanting left, and claim that Fox is fair and centered... read below. (I know, I know, it is from Keith Olberman's show, who got it from the Huffington Post, but if this email is true then it shows there is definite bias at Fox News):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750535/

[quote]
Has Fox News gone too far?
'Outfoxed' filmmaker says alleged internal memo points to bias
By Keith Olbermann
Anchor, 'Countdown'
MSNBC
Updated: 3:40 p.m. ET Nov 16, 2006

"Countdown" host Keith Olbermann highlighted an alleged internal Fox memo sent to staff they day after Democrats took control of the Congress on his Nov. 15 show.

He talked to documentary filmmaker Robert Greenwald, who examined other similar memos put out by the network in his movie

Olberman? DU's Poster Boy? lmfao lmfao lmfao

Hannity isn't a reporter. He is hired for his political commentary. I really do not understand how liberals cannot grasp the basic concept of Capitalism. The reason they are successful is because it IS what the people want.

Damn man, you guys have CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN Headline News, CNN Money, CNN the Ocho, etc., etc., etc., not to mention just about ALL newspapers with the exception of the Augusta Chronicle.

Damn, we didn't ***** this much when you had a monopoly, which according to the way the Clinton Gub'mint did Microsoft, there could be a case made that you still do. Now we have ONE station and libs are up in arms?

Say it with me, GET OVER IT!

For years, I fought the idea that the media had a liberal bias. I didn't want it to be so. I wanted dispassionate journalists who reported the news without bias. I thought that was the way it was, the way it should be. If someone claimed liberal bias, I called BS.

But little by little I had to take notice of the many ways things are slanted, some in great ways, some in small. What/who is covered, in what depth, and with what wording, all reflects bias, and manipulation of the readership/viewers.

What got more ink, Delay or Reid? Delay denies the accusations against him, Reid admits them,$$$ about 5X.

Foley/Studds?

William Jefferson, the LA congressman? No, all you hear is about REPUBLICAN corruption.

Someone asked Bill Clinton some tough questions, it's a Republican ambush, big brouhaha. Days and days of talking. Same thing happen to Lynn Cheney, nada.

Dan Rather?

What's this thing with Murtha and the ethics committe? Is there a problem?

Once I got out of denial, the bias was evident and still is.


I would rather have all the news media present only facts, without spin. But if three go one way and one the other, well at least we can listen/read/view them all and compare and contrast. I just think it is better to have media wrong in both directions than all wrong in one.

I'm not denying some liberal slant to CNN, MSNBC, etc., hence the reason why I said I realized it was from Keith Olbermann, an obviously left leaning person.

My point is that Fox News is not middle of the road either, which is something I've read in the past.

Owl, I 100% agree with you, I just want the people to present facts. I'm tired of both sides being biased, I want to be able to make a decision for myself, not have someone spin it in their direction to make me believe their side.

At this point in my life I've found myself reading/watching news from Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc, as well as other online sources because I can at least get multiple viewpoints then make a decision for myself. That is also part of the reason why I call myself a moderate, because depending on the issue I side with one party or the other.

The problem is there are to many people who vote who don't know how to think for themselves.

rickheel Wrote:The problem is there are to many people who vote who don't know how to think for themselves.

That is a correct statement for both parties.....

...and so it starts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...64x2728679


Left-wingers have no concept of freedom.


I will note that some on the thread are opposed to it, but calls for the reinstitution of the unFairness Doctrine are alive and well concerning radio.

No mainstream news program or network admits to bias. It doesn't mean we should believe that. I don't particularly like it but I'm just as comfortable knowing that MSNBC is a left leaning organization as Fox is right leaning. So what? How is this (Olberman/Huffingtonpost story) news?

Brookes, this is OT, but do you think Ultaviolet is getting nervous?

Brookes Owl Wrote:How is this (Olberman/Huffingtonpost story) news?

I'd say due to the fact that it appears they have at least some proof (through this email) that Fox News has some bias.

mlb Wrote:

Brookes Owl Wrote:How is this (Olberman/Huffingtonpost story) news?

I'd say due to the fact that it appears they have at least some proof (through this email) that Fox News has some bias.

It is my opinion that bias is in the eyes of the beholder. There are people on DU that think CNN has a conservative bias, whereas I think that, aside from Glen Beck and Robin and Co., CNN is a bastion of liberalism. So....of course they are going to think that Fox has a bias.

Quote:One of the most ingenious aspects of the false charge of an intentional liberal bias in the news media is the unstated inference that if there is a liberal bias there by necessity cannot be an intentional conservative bias.

The premise is faulty from the beginning. Olby and the rest of the loons at huffingtonpost and DU want you to believe that if Fox is shown to be conservatively biased then that means there is no liberal bias at all. The flaw in logic there is self evident, though in no way shocking coming from this crowd.

As far as Olby goes, this is the same guy who takes one part of one sentence the president says then rants against it saying he stated something he never did. The guy is a left wing looney and MSNBC is the Air America of television.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:Brookes, this is OT, but do you think Ultaviolet is getting nervous?

Hey, you keep that crap off this board! ;-)

Fox News leans left, Don't you know?

Quote:Murdoch is a mogul, and he only cares about profits and whatever benefits his company, and if that means appeasing Chinese communists, Saudi princes, or left-wing politicians, so be it.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:Brookes, this is OT, but do you think Ultaviolet is getting nervous?

Should be!!!