Swagger, first of all I followed the conversation, if Paul wants to say that FSU owns the ACC then fine. I put it in other words, I think we have alot to say about this conference and our rightful place in it. 76-4 is a hell of a record in any conference and those four losses are not one after the other, except for the last two. Too bad the ACC couldnt be like our toughest competition, the Gators and Canes, and the thing about they are OOC on our schedule. Your the one talking about the calibur of certain teams, so let me guess, all the teams in the ACC except for the NOLES are prepared to play this year. Every where I look its all about how bad the NOLES were "last year", and still came out with a winning record. It's pretty bad when your team has a winning record, but they "suck". Alot of teams would love to be 8-4, but with the Noles you have to be 10-1, 11-1 or something around there. Also all the ACC teams keep repeating how they want to kill the Noles this year, and its the same every year. Do you think we are just going to lie down and let you run over us?? Hell NO!! Over and over, were going to beat the Noles, but it hardly ever happens, like I said our toughest competition isnt even in the ACC, year in and year out, too bad it couldnt be. Now you want to talk about Rix, lets do it. First of all he got a win over G.Tech in his first year, and hes only a freshman, unlike some team from Georgia that had all the National Championship hype and couldnt beat a less then average Nole team. You talk about him being a gymnast wanna be, but it was a TD. If you think Rix is the only thing FSU has then your just as bad as the media, we have alot of talent around him. It starts with the QB, thats why there is all the hype. A freshman has never started at FSU, most QB's have a couple years under their belt, and dont get to start until they are juniors in most cases, with Rix it was completely different. Look at Ward and Weinke, they started when they were juniors, and won the Heisman the following year, but if you compare stats with all 3 when it was time to start, Rix is well ahead of them. Ward threw alot of interceptions in his first 4 games, and Weinke threw 6 in one game, both went on to win the Heisman, but Rix stats are just as good if not better, and I'm not saying that to start anything about a Heisman campaign, he has a long way to go. The media placed more on G.Tech then anything compared to Rix, and they didnt come close. I just love the fact that people are not giving a chance because we sucked at 8-4 last year LOL!!!! I still dont know where you get all the talk is about Rix, its far from it, yes he is the QB, but we have other players on that field ready to go too. Oh but I forgot we are the Noles, we lost 4 games, while Wake Forest is a powerhouse ready to walk all over the Noles. Those boring excuses of playing us close just dont work. Clemson did it in 99, and look what happend the next 2 years. You either win or lose, none of that "oh we played them close" business. Virginia did it once, and everyone said the Noles are finished, then came N.C.State and the same thing the Noles are done, now we lose to North Carolina and N.C. State and we are done again. Now everyone in the ACC has all this talent coming back and the Noles didnt look to good "last year". For some reason coming back and last year are two different things but people refuse to see it that way. Everyone sees a 2001 Noles team playing all these powerhouse football teams from the ACC in 2002. Everyone has all this talent coming back, the NOLES sucked "last year". To me it sounds like we are finished in the ACC's eyes and everyone else, and oh how I love it!!!!
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