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Daylight robbery, Bush-style: Iraqis fail to regain control of oil revenue
Posted on Wednesday, June 02 @ 10:19:44 EDT

By Ahmed Janabi, aljazeera

The latest Iraqi attempts to recover control of the country's oil revenues from the United States appear to have hit a dead end with a special delegation being rebuffed in its bid to secure UN help.

The delegation has been in New York in a bid to petition the UN to exert pressure on US occupation authorities, who currently preside over Iraq's oil output.

It includes Hamid al-Bayati, a deputy in the Iraqi interim foreign ministry and a spokesperson for the Supreme Council of Islamic Revolution in Iraq.

In New York since last week its members have so far failed to get an audience with UN officials.

The control of Iraq's oil revenue has been controversial ever since the US-led occupation of Iraq in 2003.

The US has imposed secrecy on oil deals, exportation, and use of revenues. Iraqi officials have previously asked for access to oil revenues, but have been turned down by the occupation Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) headed by Paul Bremer.



Daylight robbery

Muzhir al-Dulaymi, spokesman for the League for the Defence of Iraqi Peoples' Rights, told Aljazeera the US was systematically milking Iraq of its oil.

"A daylight robbery is going in Iraq. I have first hand information from sources in al-Bakr port in southern Iraq, and in the Turkish port of Jihan, confirming that three million oil barrels are being taken out of Iraq on a daily basis" al-Dulaymi said.

"Oil sale contracts only go to the Iraqi oil ministry for signing. They cannot say a word about them; not to mention the fact that there are many sealed contracts which the Iraqi ministry of oil is not notified of."

Al-Dulaymi says the Bush administration is benefiting from the process.

"When oil prices surpassed $30 last year, Bush sent his Energy Secretary to the Middle East, who held talks with Saudi Arabia and other oil producers to reduce prices.

"But here we are now; oil prices have reached $40 and not a word from the Bush administration. Why? Because they are benefitting. Definitely, they will not sacrifice such revenue and give it to Iraqis."

Motives

US officials have consistently denied that the 2003 invasion was motivated by a desire to seize Iraq's vast oil reserves.

The latest charge came from the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the UK and Ireland Prince Turki al-Faisal.

"What we read and hear from our commentators in America and sometimes congressional sources, if you remember going back a year ago, there was the issue of the oil reserves in Iraq and that in a year or two they would be producing so much oil in Iraq that, as it were, the war would pay for itself," the envoy told the Irish Independent on Monday.

"[This] indicated that there were those in America who were thinking in those terms of acquiring the natural resources of Iraq for America."

Dwindling resources

Oil experts agree that in the coming decades, oil resources will run low, and some current oil producers will not be able to maintain current output.

Iraq possesses oil reserves equal to those of US, Canada, Mexico, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and non-middle eastern Asian countries put together.

The deposed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein said in the 1970s that Iraq would provide the last drop of oil in the world.

In 2020, the world will need 112 million barrels of oil a day. Iraq and Arab Gulf states are the only countries which will be able to provide such quantities of oil.

Abd al-Hay Zalloum, an oil expert and author told Aljazeera before the invasion of Iraq that oil should not be forgotten as a US war aim.

"The US produces six to seven million barrels of oil a day. That means oil in the US will be dried out in a decade" he said "the Bush administration sees Iraq as a valuable resource."

Dr Mohamad al-Douri, the former Iraqi ambassador to the UN believes that the US might give Iraqis control over oil revenues.

"Currently, the US is not after oil revenues. What is more important to them is to secure oil flow in the coming decade, when oil resources run low", al-Douri said "Their goal now is not the money, but to control the oil flow itself in the future.

"At present Iraq’s oil exportation is not huge, but Iraq possesses one third of the world’s oil reserves, and this is what the US is after. They want to secure their future."

During the UN sanctions on Iraq 1990-2003, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates made up for Iraq’s absence from the oil market. 

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Aljazeera huh? What the NY times isn't fictitious and liberal enough for you?
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I love it when I'm able to predict what your response will be.

Guess that Psychic Friends Network membership is really paying dividends! :laugh:
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Come on JBR, there is no way that you can think Al Jazeera is a credible news agency!
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::seven year old smart arse voice:: Um, YEAH! It's like CNN for the Arabic world! DUH!

Can you please just pull your head out of the sand, just for one day?

If it's too hard to live out here in the real world, you can put it back tomorrow.

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joebordenrebel Wrote:::seven year old smart arse voice:: Um, YEAH! It's like CNN for the Arabic world! DUH!

Can you please just pull your head out of the sand, just for one day?

If it's too hard to live out here in the real world, you can put it back tomorrow.

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So you think Al jazeera is credible...Well, how about Fox News? Are they credible?
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joebordenrebel Wrote:english.aljazeera.net
You just lost all credibility Trent Lott style.
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Is there blood on the leaf-blowers, and their highly inefficient engines, used by landscapers?

How about on the street racing vehicles that are popular among young asians and blacks?

Or what about the low-riders and the cars w/ the mis-matched wheel sizes, popular among latino/hispanic young adults?

Just wondering...
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I am thinking joebordenrebel is a real terrorist
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Al Jazeera theres an on the up news organization. So thats where you and Oddball get all your news, I now see you in a much clearer picture.What about the billions of gallons that were previously pumped into Syria, the "No Blood for Oil" schpeel should have pertained to France and Russia, there backdoor Oil deals were ruined by the War, so of course they wanted No war for their Oil. Enough about the SUVs already, let me guess you drive a hybrid civic.
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SDSundevil Wrote:Al Jazeera theres an on the up news organization. So thats where you and Oddball get all your news, I now see you in a much clearer picture.What about the billions of gallons that were previously pumped into Syria, the "No Blood for Oil" schpeel should have pertained to France and Russia, there backdoor Oil deals were ruined by the War, so of course they wanted No war for their Oil. Enough about the SUVs already, let me guess you drive a hybrid civic.
Do you speak like you write? Just curious. :wave:
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I doubt your posts here will garnish any literary props themselves. God forbid any typos here :arse:
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joebordenrebel Wrote:I love it when I'm able to predict what your response will be.

Guess that Psychic Friends Network membership is really paying dividends! :laugh:
I'm a relatively neutral observer in this thread...

But... of course you were able to predict the response. If you and others are going to pile on the Fox News/Bill O'Reilly rips on the "neocons", you really can't be surprised that someone was going to call you out when quoting Al-freakin'-Jazeera.
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BTW........

Price of gas in the United States is up nearly $0.80/gallon since the beginning of the Iraq War.

Current price of gas in Iraq: $0.05/gallon


Let's compare... here $2.07 .... there $0.05

Yea, we're really exploiting them :rolleyes:
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2004 Aljazeera.Net


You have got to be kidding me. :roflol:
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:Current price of gas in Iraq: $0.05/gallon
I knew it was alot lower than it is here but I did not realize it was that cheap
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:BTW........

Price of gas in the United States is up nearly $0.80/gallon since the beginning of the Iraq War.

Current price of gas in Iraq: $0.05/gallon


Let's compare... here $2.07 .... there $0.05

Yea, we're really exploiting them :rolleyes:
Sounds like they're exploiting us. :rolleyes:
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HuskieDan Wrote:Sounds like they're exploiting us. :rolleyes:
You O'Reilly lacky --> we're clearly exerting our will over the Iraqi people and exporting all their oil here.

Who are you anyway, Newt? :laugh:
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Okay, show of hands.

How many think Al Jazeera is the official Iraqi News Network?

And how many think Saddam bankrolled al Quayder?

And how many still believe in Santa Claus?

Turns out, GTS, that the low prices in Iraq are coming out of our pockets.

As is the case for universal health care, good schools, hospitals, cell phone network, etc., the Iraqis THANK YOU.

U.S. subsidies ensure low gas prices in Iraq





Published Sunday, June 6, 2004




BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - While Americans are shelling out record prices for fuel, Iraqis pay only about 5 cents a gallon for gasoline - a benefit of hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies bankrolled by American taxpayers.

Before the war, forecasters predicted that by invading Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein, America would benefit from increased exports of oil from Iraq, which has the world’s second-largest petroleum reserves.

That would mean cheap gas for American motorists and a boost for the oil-dependent American economy.

More than a year after the invasion, that logic has been flipped on its head. Now the average price for gasoline in the United States is $2.05 a gallon - 50 cents more than the pre-invasion price.

Instead, the only people getting cheap gas as a result of the invasion are the Iraqis.

Filling a 22-gallon tank in Baghdad with low-grade fuel costs just $1.10, plus a 50-cent tip for the attendant. A tankful of high-test costs $2.75.

In Britain, by contrast, gasoline prices hit $5.79 per gallon last week - $127 for a tankful.

Although Iraq is a major petroleum producer, the country has little capacity to refine its own gasoline. So the U.S. government pays about $1.50 a gallon to buy fuel in neighboring countries and deliver it to Iraqi stations. A three-month supply costs American taxpayers more than $500 million, not including the cost of military escorts to fend off attacks by Iraqi insurgents.

"We thank the Americans. They risked their lives to liberate us, and now they are improving our lives," said Baghdad taxi driver Osama Hashim, 26, while filling the tank on his beat-up 1983 Volkswagen.

Iraq’s fuel subsidies, which are intended to mollify drivers used to low-priced fuel under Saddam, have coupled with the opening of the borders to create an anarchic car culture in Baghdad.

Cheap used cars shipped from Europe and Asia are flooding into Iraq. A 10-year-old BMW in good condition costs just $5,000. Since gas is so cheap, anyone with a car can become a taxi driver. Drivers jam the streets, offering rides for as little as 250 dinars - about 17 cents.

Iraq has no sales tax, no registration, no license plates and no auto insurance. Some would argue there are no rules of the road. Cars barrel the wrong way on the highway. They swoop into surprise U-turns. They ignore traffic signals.

Analysts say the U.S. gas subsidies can’t last forever - and Iraqis might be in for an unpleasant shock when they end. In the meantime, however, the American taxpayer continues to foot a huge bill.

"The U.S. taxpayer has a right to be indignant, and Iraqis have to be warned about the long-run damages of this," said Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The U.S. government paid even more last year for Iraqis’ gasoline - between $1.59 and $1.70 per gallon - when the imports were contracted to Halliburton, the Texas oil services giant formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.

The cheap fuel is spurring unsustainable demand, promoting wasteful use of energy and transportation, and squandering Iraq’s oil output that might otherwise be exported, Cordesman said.

Iraqi drivers protest that the price difference between a gallon of gas in the United States and Iraq is fair because the average Iraqi earns around $1,000 per year, a thirtieth of the average U.S. wage.



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