Lost in the headlines, a bill submitted by extreme left wing democrats (I know extreme left wing and Democrat are redundant) :laugh: to require the UN to observe the 2004 U.S. election and certify the results. Who in the #@!! is the U.N. to get involved in U.S. politics? It’s not like we are some third world country, although the representative for FL that went nuts in the House yesterday sure acts like it. She said the Republicans came to Florida and stole the election from Gore. PLEASE even the liberal press said Bush would have won Florida by 500 votes with the recount. :eek:

So what would it hurt to let the U.N. do that..........??? It would all be out in the open, nothing to hide, no questions asked, fair and square.

We are the world's largest supporter of the U.N., let's put them to work.

We could avoid another fiasco like last time.

The truth is that Florida fiasco was shakey at best fraudulent at worst. Gore did the honorable thing and backed down. He should at least get your respect for that.

Trooper Wrote:So what would it hurt to let the U.N. do that..........??? It would all be out in the open, nothing to hide, no questions asked, fair and square.

We are the world's largest supporter of the U.N., let's put them to work.

We could avoid another fiasco like last time.

The UN has their own agenda...and it doesn't benefit the US.

Last time's "fiasco" was created by a giddy media and FL legislators who fabricated stories for their play on "race". I saw the interviews firsthand, where the black FL legislator fabricated tales of woe in parking lots where voters lamented (w/ cries of anguish) that they'd made the wrong choice.

BS.

It was a tight race, and deserved a re-count. But the re-count went Bush's way...repeatedly.

Dogger Wrote:Gore did the honorable thing and backed down. He should at least get your respect for that.

Gore had NO CHOICE but to back down once the Supreme Court ruled against him. We should respect him for doing what he had no choice but to do?

Incidentally it's important to note that the NY Time, Miami Herald, Washington Post and about a dozen other media outlets did their own recounts, and at no time to Gore overtake Bush.

Dogger Wrote:The truth is that Florida fiasco was shakey at best fraudulent at worst.  Gore did the honorable thing and backed down.  He should at least get your respect for that.

Florida fiasco shaky at best, fraudulent at worst? :rolleyes: Why because a statistically insignificant number of ballots by most Presidential election standards were unreadable, because the "Butterfly Ballot" designed and approved by the democratic party confused hundreds of illiterate Democrats not capable of following the arrow from the candidate's picture to the proper hole to punch? :drink:

Democrats need to stop blaming Republicans for their own party's incompetence and the low intellect of its voters.

I do agree the way the recount was being handled was shaky at best, fraudulent at worst I mean a room full of people trying to determine what an unidentified person’s intention was when they weren’t capable of clearly identifying their choice on the ballot.

THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:

Dogger Wrote:The truth is that Florida fiasco was shakey at best fraudulent at worst.  Gore did the honorable thing and backed down.  He should at least get your respect for that.

Florida fiasco shaky at best, fraudulent at worst? :rolleyes: Why because a statistically insignificant number of ballots by most Presidential election standards were unreadable, because the "Butterfly Ballot" designed and approved by the democratic party confused hundreds of illiterate Democrats not capable of following the arrow from the candidate's picture to the proper hole to punch?

There was no confusion. That's what gets me. It was all made up. A fabricated ploy to try to swing an election.

Look exactly at what democrats are willing to do: sell out their own constituants and parade them for the media as if they are illiterate imbeciles. They treat them like livestock!

Yes oppression exists in the US today...and it comes from the left.

Please...I do not want the UN certifying our elections...in case anyone forgot, we are the United States of America, not the United States Under World Rule. And you know the UN is so quick and decisive that any controversy would be ironed out very quickly. :rolleyes:

One election with a democratic election official in one state setting up a ballot that old people can't understand and suddenly we need oversight from an organization that doesn't care for many of our policies. No thanks.

Give it up guys! Personal Responsibility and Common Sense are not attributes found on the left, so no matter what you say, it won't sink in and that will be the Right's fault!

the un watching elections. when did the u.s. turn into afganistan?

oh and happy bday gb

UN running our elections? Please. That's like having Bill Clinton give a lecture on being faithful to your spouse.

THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:Lost in the headlines, a bill submitted by extreme left wing democrats (I know extreme left wing and Democrat are redundant) :laugh:  to require the UN to observe the 2004 U.S. election and certify the results.

I think that's funny. :laugh:

Look, there were problems.

I agree that if Gore got his recounts, Bush still would have won.

On the other hand:

The U.S. Supreme Court refused to allow the recount to go on, and overturned the Florida Supreme Court. That was a terrible decision. They basically appointed Bush president. We found out later that they appointed the right guy. But to appoint him without checking for sure? It was a terrible decision.

Even more problematic was the number of eligible voters rendered ineligible because of a bureaucratic mistake (so they say) overseen by Katherine Harris, Florida chairwoman for Bush's re-election effort.

This is worth seeing:

<a href='http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html' target='_blank'>http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html</a>

We're talking 55,000 people who were improperly stripped from the voter rolls.

If those people were allowed to vote, I think Gore would have won.

Maybe the UN should watch. The way the Bush administration is talking about delaying the election -- it scares the hell out of me.

While I recognize the call for the UN for what it is -- a stunt -- I'd actually feel better with the UN here watching.

Seriously.

I don't trust Bush.

At all.

Schadenfreude Wrote:On the other hand:

The U.S. Supreme Court refused to allow the recount to go on, and overturned the Florida Supreme Court. That was a terrible decision. They basically appointed Bush president. We found out later that they appointed the right guy. But to appoint him without checking for sure? It was a terrible decision.

The Florida Supreme Court was struck down because it overstepped its boundaries. The Constitution states that the Florida state legislature, and not the state supreme court, is responsible for creating the process where the state's electors are to be selected. The election of the president is a federal issue. The Supreme Court intervened and shot down the proposed manual recount because it violated Floridians' constitutional rights by not defining what would constitute a valid "vote" during the recount.