1. Personal Responsibility.

They take NO personal responsibility in ANYTHING. They have strong ties in the legal community (Trial Lawyers Association) and the public education community, I.e. government schools (National Teacher's Union). They mandate parents to "drug up" their children so they don't have to deal with the kids instead of actually teaching and being the authority figure. As far as the legal community, they blame the victim, the weapons manufacturer, or society in general. ANYONE but the damn criminal.

2. Economic Issues.

They preach that high taxes stimulate the economy when anyone with an IQ over 90 can negate this argument with the fact that allowing people to keep more of the money THEY make allows them to spend more of their money. High Taxes MAKE people save and retard investment, new ventures, and success. How does that stimulate the economy?

From <a href='http://www.boortz.com/april18-03.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.boortz.com/april18-03.htm</a>

[b][i]The equation is so simple. Manufacturers are laying off workers because they

5) Hypocrisy re: the constitution

nate jonesacc Wrote:5) Hypocrisy re: the constitution

Care to elaborate?

The 1st amendment is the law of the land... the electoral college and the 2nd amendment, however... are worthless pieces of crap. :rolleyes:

:lolup: True that.

nate jonesacc Wrote:The 1st amendment is the law of the land... the electoral college and the 2nd amendment, however... are worthless pieces of crap. :rolleyes:

1. Electoral College.

Awwww.....still ticked off about the 2000 election? Boo Hoo. Bush won Florida with ALL recounts PERIOD! It was Gore who only wanted to count the majority Democratic counties and throw out the military absentee ballots, in turn trying to steal the election. So....you want majority rule? Ok, look who will be running the country:

<a href='http://mwhodges.home.att.net/usmap-large.gif' target='_blank'>http://mwhodges.home.att.net/usmap-large.gif</a>

PS: the Red voted for Bush. This isn't a new concept guy, remember the Connecticut Compromise that was between Virginia and New Jersey?

2. The Second Amendment.

Are you serious? Shall I tell you that the MAIN reason we have never been attacked by a ground force AS a nation, is because the world's knowledge that we have the right to bear arms? You think firearms breed violence? What kind of firearms were the Romans using? Greeks? Attilla the Hun? It's the person that commits the crime, not the weapon. Take a look at two countries that regret their decision to ban weapons, Australia and England. Banning firearms only ensures that honest people will be unarmed. Criminals aren't going to magically start abiding by the damn law because one is passed. Criminals also pick the weakest target. There's a reason why Kennesaw, Ga has a low burglary rate. Why? Because the mayor mandated that ALL homeowners own at least one gun. I know some don't, but does the criminal?

Herrrrrrrrreres you sign:

By The Way..........did you know one of the organizers of the Million Mom March that was an anti-gun organization, Rosie O'Donnell had armed bodyguards for her children? Hmm? Must be nice, but NEWSFLASH! Most people can't AFFORD damn bodyguards. How are we to protect OUR children? OURselves? Depend on liberals that constantly live in a pipe dream and think gun laws will end ALL gun use? My A S S!



<!--EDIT|RebelKev|Apr 30 2003, 08:53 PM-->

Wow... I figured you realized that my post was in jest with the rolling eyes.

I am against gun control... I love the electoral college and leftists/liberals are the root of all evil... I would have voted 100 times for GWB if I could have.

Seriously... I agree with 99% of what you said... we are on the same page... you misunderstood me.

I was saying that liberals are bad for the country because of their hypocrisy re: the Constitution.

LOL... nice sign, too, BTW!

It could just say...

"ROB ME! PLEASE!"

nate jonesacc Wrote:LOL... nice sign, too, BTW!

It could just say...

"ROB ME! PLEASE!" &nbsp;

My Apologies to you sir. ......


I now feel like such a dumb***.......



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I could get on here and defend liberalism, but I can already tell its a lost cause. You fellas have the answers for all questions, and obviously are the authority on all matters of discussion. Its simply a waste of time, I know that I will be beaten down by your superior intelligence and your world view that is much beyond my wisdom.

I only wish that I could be a conservative, so I could only look at one side of the issue and immediately know that it is correct. I only wish that I didnt have to think when it comes to making decisions, I could just choose to keep things exactly how they are, to conquer all nations that do not think like I do, and to run over all those who stand in my way.

bigolhawg Wrote:I could get on here and defend liberalism, but I can already tell its a lost cause. You fellas have the answers for all questions, and obviously are the authority on all matters of discussion. Its simply a waste of time, I know that I will be beaten down by your superior intelligence and your world view that is much beyond my wisdom.

I only wish that I could be a conservative, so I could only look at one side of the issue and immediately know that it is correct. I only wish that I didnt have to think when it comes to making decisions, I could just choose to keep things exactly how they are, to conquer all nations that do not think like I do, and to run over all those who stand in my way.

Well, here's a newsflash for you, I am liberal on certain issues as I am a Libertarian. I don't believe prostitution should be illegal as it's something between two consenting adults. I don't think drug laws are productive because I think it's a lost cause and primarily because Marijuana is less dangerous than what I'm drinking now. I don't believe in the proselytizing of the citizens of America by claiming we only have one God. "I" believe that, but this country wasn't founded on that.

I do believe that we were founded on the PRINCIPLES of religion. Hell, the Bible Belt is fairly a new term. The South didn't used to be as religious as it is now. New England was the beacon of religion. Of course, things change. I.e. revolutionaries were liberals(Wanting change), Republicans were Pro-Nationalist, and Democrats were Pro-State's Rights. Things change. That's why I TRY not to use the party, but use the idealogy. We don't NEED to change the document that is the US Constitution. The people that wrote it were smarter than Bush 43, Reagan, Bush 41, and yes! Clinton!

IMO, Democrats of today are Socialist by nature and have the vote of Yellow-Dog Democrats that were JFK Democrats. IMO, these YDD's are dumbasses for not researching who they vote for. The JFK Democrats are no more.

bigolhawg Wrote:I could get on here and defend liberalism, but I can already tell its a lost cause. You fellas have the answers for all questions, and obviously {SNIP}

Basically, he's saying he can't reply with any facts.....just rhetoric that can be negated with any damn websearch out there.


Liberals should hate the internet.

RebelKev Wrote:

bigolhawg Wrote:I could get on here and defend liberalism, but I can already tell its a lost cause. &nbsp; &nbsp;You fellas have the answers for all questions, and obviously {SNIP}

Basically, he's saying he can't reply with any facts.....just rhetoric that can be negated with any damn websearch out there.


Liberals should hate the internet.

You have absolutely no desire to hear what I have to say.

When you start a thread with the title "Why I Think Liberals are BAD! for this Country..", you obviously arent interested in hearing from a liberal, you are interested in like minded people telling you that they agree.

From what the Ole Miss folks have said about you, apparently you seem to obsess over liberal bashing. I have enough liberal bashers when I engage in actual conversation, and will not waste time typing everything out when I know it will not be read.

bigolhawg Wrote:You have absolutely no desire to hear what I have to say. &nbsp;

When you start a thread with the title "Why I Think Liberals are BAD! for this Country..", you obviously arent interested in hearing from a liberal, you are interested in like minded people telling you that they agree.

From what the Ole Miss folks have said about you, apparently you seem to obsess over liberal bashing. &nbsp;I have enough liberal bashers when I engage in actual conversation, and will not waste time typing everything out when I know it will not be read.

Actually, as I have SAID, I AM Liberal on certain issues. I don't want Far-Right wingers running this country anymore than I want Far-Left Wingers running this country. Problem is, the liberal mainstream has become FAR Left Wing, I.e. Socialist and pretty much said the hell with JFK policies. The Far Right Wing isn't controlling the Republican party. It's different with the Democratic party. JFK lowered taxes and boosted the economy. NO Democrat, aside from Zell Miller, is FOR tax cuts these days.

Of course, you can ALWAYS start your own thread about how Conservatives are bad for the US. I will not shun from it; I will respond to it.



<!--EDIT|RebelKev|Apr 30 2003, 11:41 PM-->

I'm with bigoldawg, and I'll take it a step further.

It isn't worth getting into this thread because the person who started it has a completely warped sense of reality.

He implies the Democratic Party went and done gone socialist.

The reality is this: Our nation's last liberal president was probably Johnson, and he left office 35 years ago.

Nothing either Carter or Clinton accomplished is remotely as liberal as the track record of presidents Johnson or Roosevelt.

Bashing Democrats as far-left wingers is good politics The history of the American presidency is a history of reaching for the center. Marginalize your opponent, and it seems to put you toward the center.

It also, apparently, makes good radio.

But it isn't true.

6) Liberals don't deal in logic. They seek this utopia that will never exist as long as there are two or more humans on Earth.

RochesterFalcon Wrote:It also, apparently, makes good radio.

Hmm, maybe because people don't care to listen to liberal morons like Mike Malloy, Peter Werbe, Michael Moore, et. al. run down the country every day. Could that be it? Conservative talk shows speak highly of the country and are very optimistic. Liberals are the most pessimistic, hate-filled people in the country.

....and generosity isn't something they can lay claim to either:

<span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>THOSE HIDEOUS UNCOMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVES</span>

Some group called The Chronicle of Philanthropy has compiled a list of the most and least generous areas in the United States when it comes to individuals giving money to charity.

This list of the most and least generous cities in the U.S. shows the amount of disposable income that is donated to charitable causes. Look at the list, and tell me if you see anything odd

Quote:Hmm, maybe because people don't care to listen to liberal morons like Mike Malloy, Peter Werbe, Michael Moore, et. al. run down the country every day. Could that be it? Conservative talk shows speak highly of the country and are very optimistic. Liberals are the most pessimistic, hate-filled people in the country.

It could be that liberals read.

Exceprt from the New York Times non-fiction bestsellers list:

3 STUPID WHITE MEN, by Michael Moore. (ReganBooks/HarperCollins, $24.95.) The man behind "Roger & Me" takes aim at Republicans and Democrats, corporate America and our "nation of idiots."
Last week's rank: 3
Weeks on the list: 54

Let me emphasize: Stupid White Men has been on the list for more than a year -- and more than three times as long as any other book now on the list.

The complete list:

<a href='http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/04/books/bestseller/0504besthardnonfiction.html' target='_blank'>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/04/books/be...nonfiction.html</a>

Quote:Check out the cities where people give generously to charities. For the most part, they voted for Bush. The least generous cities voted for Gore.

If every metropolitan area in America gave like Salt Lake City, it would still be drops in a bucket compared with the savagery people like you want to inflict on our nation's social welfare system.

A thousand points of light? Try a thousand drops in a bucket -- and that ain't even a decent glass of water where I'm from.



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