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RochesterFalcon Wrote:It's a very slippery slope, going to war against countries that have neither attacked us nor shown evidence of planning to do so.

In fact, such a war would be unjust according to traditional Christian philosophy and illegal according to the United Nation charter, which the United States helped write.

And that's been my problem with it from Day One.

Now, we could cite whatever mutual defense treaty we may have with Israel to justify this (and does anyone know if we have one?). The terrorism Saddam has sponsored led has generally been directed at either Israel or Turkey.

But look, then, at what this would boil down to: America going to war to protect Israel's settlements. (After all, Turkey didn't want this war).

That's crap. Count me out. Palestine should stop killing civilians and Israel should tear down its illegal settlements. I don't have a dog in that fight.
Protecting Israel's interests? Hmm, where? As far as this being illegal, I won't go through all the resolutions that stated any member country could enfore it again, but you do realize we never ENDED the war, don't you? It was a cease fire. Now, how many times have our planes been fired upon? We SHOULD'VE done this back in the damn Clinton Administration, but he was too inept and busy getting blowjobs. Are you also saying that everytime Clinton fired missiles (over 400 Tomahawks) into Baghdad, it was illegal? Yeah, I doubt it.
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Quote:As far as this being illegal, I won't go through all the resolutions that stated any member country could enfore it again,

That's a good idea. Because you are already distorting their meaning.
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RochesterFalcon Wrote:
Quote:As far as this being illegal, I won't go through all the resolutions that stated any member country could enfore it again,

That's a good idea. Because you are already distorting their meaning.
How so? It is stated clearly. It was a cease fire and they continued to fire on our planes, thereby continuing the hostilities. If we had done this the first time it happened, it wouldn't be an issue. Of course, Billy was in office. You still haven't answered my rhetorical question, if it was illegal for Bush to go into this war, was it illegal for Billy to lob 400+ Tomahawks into Baghdad?
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Quote:You still haven't answered my rhetorical question, if it was illegal for Bush to go into this war, was it illegal for Billy to lob 400+ Tomahawks into Baghdad?

Probably.
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Quote:How so? It is stated clearly. It was a cease fire and they continued to fire on our planes, thereby continuing the hostilities.

Security Council Resolution 678 authorized U.N. nations to use military force to restore Kuwait's territorial integrity.

Resolution 687 was the cease fire. Graph 34:

The Security Council "decides to remain seized of the matter and to take such further steps as may be required for the implentation of the present resolution and to secure peace and security in the region."

The cease fire does not seem to delegate this to member states.
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Did they fire on us on a weekly basis????????????????? Ok then.
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Oh, okay.
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