And Ortiz dominated Game 6 before DB took him out. I must have been wrong about Rueter. Thanks for the correction.

GDawgs88 Wrote:You sound like a liberal, that's so slanted. Only kidding...

But how can you take Ponson over Hampton? Ponson is a back of the rotation guy who had one good half. Hampton is pitching like he was in '99 when he got robbed out of the Cy Young.

And I wouldn't say Williams has had a better year than Ramirez. Ramirez has 5 more wins and the same number of losses. I'll give you ERA though.

I didn't put Reynolds in because I was thinking about the postseason and Shane won't be on our rotation then.

I gotta hand it to you swoosh, you really support your team. I respect that.

I know Ponson has only had one good year, but it's just a gut feeling. Lots of guys have never had postseason experience, or haven't pitched one good year, and were great in the playoffs. Also, i haven't seen Hampton do this in a few years, so all i have to go on is this year, even though he had a bunch of great years 4 or 5 seasons ago.

The thing about Jerome Williams is that he's gotten worse run support than pretty much anyone on the Giants.

About Shane Reynolds, i thought we were discussing the starting five, but it doesn't matter.

GDawgs88 Wrote:And Ortiz dominated Game 6 before DB took him out. I must have been wrong about Rueter. Thanks for the correction.

Ortiz was pitching very well, but i wouldn't call 6 and 1/3 innings with 2 ER a dominating performance. Also, you might not remember, but Ortiz was in and out of trouble all game, how long can luck last?

I'm not denying that ortiz was awesome in the playoffs, but so was Schmidt.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:And Ortiz dominated Game 6 before DB took him out. I must have been wrong about Rueter. Thanks for the correction.

Ortiz was pitching very well, but i wouldn't call 6 and 1/3 innings with 2 ER a dominating performance. Also, you might not remember, but Ortiz was in and out of trouble all game, how long can luck last?

But if Dusty left him in, the Giants would be world champs right now. Don't you think?

flyingswoosh Wrote:I know Ponson has only had one good year, but it's just a gut feeling. Lots of guys have never had postseason experience, or haven't pitched one good year, and were great in the playoffs. Also, i haven't seen Hampton do this in a few years, so all i have to go on is this year, even though he had a bunch of great years 4 or 5 seasons ago.

But don't you think Hampton's problems were from pitching in Coors Field?

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:And Ortiz dominated Game 6 before DB took him out. I must have been wrong about Rueter. Thanks for the correction.

Ortiz was pitching very well, but i wouldn't call 6 and 1/3 innings with 2 ER a dominating performance. Also, you might not remember, but Ortiz was in and out of trouble all game, how long can luck last?

But if Dusty left him in, the Giants would be world champs right now. Don't you think?

No. My honest opinion at the time, was Dusty made the right move. Unfortunately it didn't work out.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:And Ortiz dominated Game 6 before DB took him out. I must have been wrong about Rueter. Thanks for the correction.

Ortiz was pitching very well, but i wouldn't call 6 and 1/3 innings with 2 ER a dominating performance. Also, you might not remember, but Ortiz was in and out of trouble all game, how long can luck last?

But if Dusty left him in, the Giants would be world champs right now. Don't you think?

No. My honest opinion at the time, was Dusty made the right move. Unfortunately it didn't work out.

I don't know. The way Russ was pitching, I couldn't understand why Dusty pulled him. But that's a conversation for a different time.

yea, i guess so. Some of that WS is a blur to me, but i definitely remember that i thought dusty made the right move.