I have lurked around this board on and off for quite a long time, and for some reason have read the Spin Room simply because of its entertainment value. I loved the posts of the Liberal Rebels, Nate Jones, an old Hog fan that leaned left, and a few others who came and went, and I have slowly watched them be pushed out.

Rickheel, georgia tech swagger, and RebelKev's management of the board is disgusting. They are just as guilty as the offenders, and seem to treat the board users as if they mean nothing if they express liberal views. I realize this board is privately owned and its operators may do what they choose, but I do not believe the decisions made in regard to posters with differing viewpoints were justified.

You now have it down to one liberal poster, Schad, but who knows how long it will take for him to be pushed out. Is this what "America's favorite sports discussion forum" is all about?

IndianPride Wrote:I have lurked around this board on and off for quite a long time, and for some reason have read the Spin Room simply because of its entertainment value. I loved the posts of the Liberal Rebels, Nate Jones, an old Hog fan that leaned left, and a few others who came and went, and I have slowly watched them be pushed out.

Rickheel, georgia tech swagger, and RebelKev's management of the board is disgusting. They are just as guilty as the offenders, and seem to treat the board users as if they mean nothing if they express liberal views. I realize this board is privately owned and its operators may do what they choose, but I do not believe the decisions made in regard to posters with differing viewpoints were justified.

You now have it down to one liberal poster, Schad, but who knows how long it will take for him to be pushed out. Is this what "America's favorite sports discussion forum" is all about?

what's disgusting is your post. The admins have not treated liberals any different than the cons. that's a crappy conspiracy theory. They made a bunch of us mods and we try to be as non-biased as possible. For instance, i've deleted a couple posts from a mudslinging conservative.

Also, oddball and dogger are liberal posters.

What's disgusting is you trying to make a big show. :rolleyes:

I've requested mods repeatedly. The AUP setup was suggested by a liberal poster. It was adopted, and it has been enforced.

If your problem is with mods --> We put up as mod who we could that was in reasonable. If you have a problem with there not being an outright liberal mod other than Schad, then why don't you get another liberal to grow a pair and volunteer.

FYI: Please direct further concerns you have to an admin or support (at) ncaabbs (dot) com --> as you originally agreed to do upon registration.

IndianPride Wrote:I loved the posts of the Liberal Rebels, Nate Jones, an old Hog fan that leaned left, and a few others who came and went, and I have slowly watched them be pushed out. 

Rickheel, georgia tech swagger, and RebelKev's management of the board is disgusting.  They are just as guilty as the offenders, and seem to treat the board users as if they mean nothing if they express liberal views.  I realize this board is privately owned and its operators may do what they choose, but I do not believe the decisions made in regard to posters with differing viewpoints were justified.

You now have it down to one liberal poster, Schad, but who knows how long it will take for him to be pushed out.  Is this what "America's favorite sports discussion forum" is all about?

More in depth analysis:

Nate was banned for posting extreme pornography on the Sports Bar. Guess we're at fault there huh?
KlutzDio (liberal rebel) freely posts and isn't bullied around... he can and does express his liberal-oriented opinion.
JBR was denied access to Spin Room after repeated breaches of AUP, and after many warnings in private through admins and mods.

I suppose it is our fault for banning pornography, removing access after repeated violation of AUP (namely flames with extreme language), and letting other liberals speak their mind freely.

"[We] are just as guilty as the offenders." How? I notice you provide nothing even mildly factual about your wild claims. You didn't even backup and/or justify your opinion :-/

It's now one liberal poster... uh huh. Never heard of Dogger, MAKO, Schad, Klutz, Oddball, Torch....

We are really out to get all liberals, uh huh :rolleyes:


I normally reserve my opinion in these situations so as not to hurt anybody's feelings... however... I am frankly appauled at your total bullcrap conspiracy theory, incredibly unobjective narrow sighted observation, and blatent disregard for factual information. Your motivation in this thread was clearly to make a show, but it is doing a much better job of undermining your integrity. I work my *** off to ensure this is the best community it can be, and people that spew forth that sort of self-righteous, arrogant, pompous crap piss me off. This post, sir, is a total farse and I hope it's not indicative of how you access everything. If it is and your true intent is to shower our world with your intellectual black holes, please see yourself to the door as it's a waste of bandwith and counterproductive.

As I stated at first, it is up to you to choose how to run your site.

I have little or no stake in the argument, I am just amazed at the strength of opinions and the way in which site admin's carry themselves here. rickheel stated that he hoped bigolhawg didnt let the door hit him in the *** on the way out, when he had done nothing. He didn't attempt to keep the user coming to the site. Telling liberals to grow a pair is just juvenile, the problem with not having enough liberal moderators isn't the lack of tesitcles, its the lack of numbers. And if you think the ideology here is even, I'm wasting more time than I thought I was.

This is futile. Trying to point out something to help the overall site will obviously just piss you off and not make you take a second look at things. I've read the site because I have enjoyed it, but I have noticed a pretty marked slowdown in activity here and I thought my opinion might help.

IndianPride Wrote:As I stated at first, it is up to you to choose how to run your site.

I have little or no stake in the argument, I am just amazed at the strength of opinions and the way in which site admin's carry themselves here. rickheel stated that he hoped bigolhawg didnt let the door hit him in the *** on the way out, when he had done nothing. He didn't attempt to keep the user coming to the site. Telling liberals to grow a pair is just juvenile, the problem with not having enough liberal moderators isn't the lack of tesitcles, its the lack of numbers. And if you think the ideology here is even, I'm wasting more time than I thought I was.

This is futile. Trying to point out something to help the overall site will obviously just piss you off and not make you take a second look at things. I've read the site because I have enjoyed it, but I have noticed a pretty marked slowdown in activity here and I thought my opinion might help.

i have a solution. if the posters don't like the way they're being treated by the admins, then they can stop acting so damn childish. Also, there are enough liberals here, to where there can be more than one liberal mod.

Why should rickheel waste his time in trying to bring a crybaby back to the board? it's not rick's responsibility.

Actually, there are a quite a few liberals here. My fellow MACsters Oddball and HuskieDan are frequent contributors.

I'd say two-thirds of the posters here are pretty conservative. But that isn't a conspiracy.

Look at the footprints of Conference USA, the Mid-American the Atlantic Coast and the Sun Belt, and it isn't hard to figure out why. Most of the Democrats here seem were drawn here as MAC fans -- and in states like Michigan and Ohio, one can't assume Democrats are liberal. Some are. Some aren't.

As far as enforcement of the AUP: I'd say liberals are targeted a shade more. But it isn't intentional, just unconscious bias.

Sure, most of the mods here are conservative -- but they begged for liberal mods. Hell, they *drafted* me -- and I don't want to do it. The only posts I've ever edited were entirely by accident.

People have crossed the line in going after me once in a while. It never even occurs to me to delete those posts. I'm not a girl. I just take a deep breath... and calmly explain why the other guy is a complete idiot. :angel:

Stop by more often. This place doesn't have enough Arkansas State fans. (Hell, *Arkansas* doesn't have enough Arkansas State fans).

Schadenfreude Wrote:Actually, there are a quite a few liberals here. My fellow MACsters Oddball and HuskieDan are frequent contributors.

I'd say two-thirds of the posters here are pretty conservative. But that isn't a conspiracy.

Look at the footprints of Conference USA, the Mid-American the Atlantic Coast and the Sun Belt, and it isn't hard to figure out why. Most of the Democrats here seem were drawn here as MAC fans -- and in states like Michigan and Ohio, one can't assume Democrats are liberal. Some are. Some aren't.

As far as enforcement of the AUP: I'd say liberals are targeted a shade more. But it isn't intentional, just unconscious bias.

Sure, most of the mods here are conservative -- but they begged for liberal mods. Hell, they *drafted* me -- and I don't want to do it. The only posts I've ever edited were entirely by accident.

People have crossed the line in going after me once in a while. It never even occurs to me to delete those posts. I'm not a girl. I just take a deep breath... and calmly explain why the other guy is a complete idiot.  :angel:

Stop by more often. This place doesn't have enough Arkansas State fans. (Hell, *Arkansas* doesn't have enough Arkansas State fans).

Actually, we've had our differences but I thought you would make a great mod. Something about "Moderator" makes people think more before they post. I am sure you remember Rebelkev the poster. I was all over the page. I rarely visited anything other than the Spin Room. I have gotten out of line as Admin, I understand, but I have thought about what I did. Hell, I even took a hiatus because I WAS losing control. I love talking politics, but it is a heated subject. There is always a need for a moderator in such topics. I thought you would make a good Mod because you have never really been vexatious with anyone when you weren't being attacked yourself.....from me as well. If it's uneven as far as the moderator situation goes, Indian Pride can always ask for the position. I can assure you, here lately, I have been even-handed on the situation. I have imposed a "zero-tolerance" rule on personal attacks.


Indian Pride, Joe Borden and Klutz couldn't get their point across without being callous to the person they were responding to. I, myself, was called nutless, idiot, moron, etc., etc., etc. to the point where I was damned tired of it. They were the only people banned, and they weren't even banned from the site, just the Spin Room. KD was only blocked, by me, for a week. Joe was banned by someone else.

The point is, if you can't get your point across without the vicious attacks, the Spin Room isn't for you, ...and it doesn't matter if you are a liberal OR Conservative. There IS a point when it turns from politics to a fight. This isn't the WWF, or WWE, or whatever they call themselves these days.



{We also have a liberal Administrator....NC Traffic Man. I don't know why he doesn't visit the Spin Room.}

With all due respect, I have been reading a few of the threads on this board and must agree with the observations of the original poster. This board seems to yearn for an "objective" point of view and yet seems to trash Democrats more than Conservatives.

DonQuixote Wrote:With all due respect, I have been reading a few of the threads on this board and must agree with the observations of the original poster. This board seems to yearn for an "objective" point of view and yet seems to trash Democrats more than Conservatives.

Then I suggest you start searching for "JoeBordenRebel" and "Klutzdio".

Nice observation from someone who just joined. Stick around a while and THEN assess the board.

RebelKev Wrote:Nice observation from someone who just joined. Stick around a while and THEN assess the board.

yeah, it is weird that this so-called "new" person, already knows thinks he knows a lot about this board.

I would really love to know which of our fellow posters is using "don quixote" as a disguise.

RebelKev Wrote:Then I suggest you start searching for "JoeBordenRebel" and "Klutzdio".

I'm a liberal Democrat -- and even I think JoeBordenRebel is a freak.

Quote:Nice observation from someone who just joined. Stick around a while and THEN assess the board.

Or post more often.

And personally, I''m offended that no one recognized me as a liberal. Apparently, I'm going to have to try harder.

(Notice I didn't spell "no one" as "noone" which is something that is rampant on the internet despite the fact that, while I do know people with the last name of "Noone", "noone" itself is not a word. "No one" is pronounced like the two separate words they are while "noone" is pronounced the same as "noon." Maybe (not "may be" folks are just too lazy to hit the space bar. Sorry. Just a pet peeve)

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:It's now one liberal poster... uh huh. Never heard of Dogger, MAKO, Schad, Klutz, Oddball, Torch....

I'm liberal? Noone's ever called me that before.

Haha, Oddball and SF are going to have to start dishing up some respect now!

And Mako? I knew you were a liberal you **** *** ***** ***.

Schadenfreude Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:Then I suggest you start searching for "JoeBordenRebel" and "Klutzdio".

I'm a liberal Democrat -- and even I think JoeBordenRebel is a freak.

If that is the case, then maybe you're not 100% bad afterall....

FWIW, DQ is JoeBorden...
If someone wants to say we are biased, fine. If someone wants to make a big show of leaving, fine. I just let them know to feel free to leave. If you have a problem with that, it is your problem, not mine.

And btw DQ, you are welcome to post here if you please. Just follow the rules and you will be fine. Just like EVERYONE else.

IndianPride Wrote:Telling liberals to grow a pair is just juvenile, the problem with not having enough liberal moderators isn't the lack of tesitcles, its the lack of numbers. And if you think the ideology here is even, I'm wasting more time than I thought I was.

This is futile.  Trying to point out something to help the overall site will obviously just piss you off and not make you take a second look at things.  I've read the site because I have enjoyed it, but I have noticed a pretty marked slowdown in activity here and I thought my opinion might help.

As a fellow lurker in the Spin Room, I've bolded 2 comments that I will address:

1. The admins & mods have no control over the political ideologies of the people who choose to post on NCAAbbs. And since this is primarily a sports board, it seems to me it would be a wasted effort to attempt to recruit purely on the basis of political preference. I can just see recruiting posters - NCAAbbs is in need of liberal posters. If you like sports & hate Rush Limbaugh, please join us. :rolleyes:

2. In case you hadn't noticed, it's the collegiate offseason. Traffic tends to drop during the summer because many posters are interested in conversation about their team's performance and swing by the Spin Room as they visit various conference & team boards. I expect that overall numbers will return to normal in mid-August as football practice gets into full swing.

Schadenfreude Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:Then I suggest you start searching for "JoeBordenRebel" and "Klutzdio".

I'm a liberal Democrat -- and even I think JoeBordenRebel is a freak.

Quote:Nice observation from someone who just joined. Stick around a while and THEN assess the board.

Or post more often.

LOL. Nonetheless, poor JBR is RIP. Actually, I sorta hope he'll be allowed back on the board after a few weeks -- maybe on double secret probation.

He once accused me of being a paleo-con. He was wrong; I date from the Jurassic. Anyway, I sort of miss his ravings though I agree that his hopes the Reagan burned in hell were way over the line.

So, while the originator of this thread seems to think the Conservatives here just want to banish one lib/leftist after another, it isn't true in my case. It would be a great bore to be reduced to quarreling with other conservatives about one stripe or another of conservatism. We need leftists here.

Schadenfreude Wrote:People have crossed the line in going after me once in a while. It never even occurs to me to delete those posts. I'm not a girl. I just take a deep breath... and calmly explain why the other guy is a complete idiot. :angel:

Herr Schadenfreude... I am so disappointed. I usually find your posts so insightful, even when I don't agree with them. And then you gratuitously let us know that you are "not a girl." Are you a liberal, sexist Democrat?

Hell, I'm not even a feminist (okay, I'm an equity feminist, but not a gender feminist) and I took offense at that! Anyway, we "girls" don't have to play soldier if we don't want to and we can "bingo" several times in one night. Nah nah nah nah nah.

And Adam was a rough draft. :drink: