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Quote:Yeah. He perjured himself about a blow job.

His agenda: He didn't want his wife to find out.

I disagree. His agenda was to avoid evidence that would have supported Paula Jones' accuasations. (You stand up for the little guy SF, remember Jones?)

What bearing did anything President Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky have on the Paula Jones case?

We know exactly what happened. Monica Lewinsky hit on President Clinton (by, as I recall, flashing her thong underwear at him). President Clinton decided he liked the opportunity that was presented to him.

The entire affair was consensual. There was not a whit of evidence otherwise. Nothing there had any bearing whatsoever on Paula Jones' accusations.

So, with that in mind, what was Clinton covering up?

A blow job. From his wife.

And this was a threat to our democracy?

Quote:If (and I'm willing to say 'if') Jones' accusations were true, then I think Clinton should have been impeached, kicked out of office, and serving time.

Why?

For one thing, the alleged events didn't happen while Clinton was president.

More importantly, Paula Jones sued Clinton in a civil court. No one in America service time based on the outcome of a civil lawsuit.

Quote:What appalled me is that the media turned this event into a circus about Lewinsky, instead of staying on course.

What appalls me is, despite the millions of dollars poured into investigating Paula Jones' accusations, the impeachment proceeds had nothing at all to do with those accusations.

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Quote:History will not treat Congress kindly for impeaching Bill Clinton.

We shall see.

Yes, we shall.

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Quote:Yeah. He perjured himself about a blow job.

His agenda: He didn't want his wife to find out.

I disagree. His agenda was to avoid evidence that would have supported Paula Jones' accuasations. (You stand up for the little guy SF, remember Jones?)

What bearing did anything President Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky have on the Paula Jones case?

We know exactly what happened. Monica Lewinsky hit on President Clinton (by, as I recall, flashing her thong underwear at him). President Clinton decided he liked the opportunity that was presented to him.

The entire affair was consensual. There was not a whit of evidence otherwise. Nothing there had any bearing whatsoever on Paula Jones' accusations.

So, with that in mind, what was Clinton covering up?

A blow job. From his wife.

And this was a threat to our democracy?

Quote:If (and I'm willing to say 'if') Jones' accusations were true, then I think Clinton should have been impeached, kicked out of office, and serving time.

Why?

For one thing, the alleged events didn't happen while Clinton was president.

More importantly, Paula Jones sued Clinton in a civil court. No one in America service time based on the outcome of a civil lawsuit.

Quote:What appalled me is that the media turned this event into a circus about Lewinsky, instead of staying on course.

What appalls me is, despite the millions of dollars poured into investigating Paula Jones' accusations, the impeachment proceeds had nothing at all to do with those accusations.

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Quote:History will not treat Congress kindly for impeaching Bill Clinton.

We shall see.

Yes, we shall.

The man lied and tried to get others to cover up in violation of criminal law. No different than Nixon. Nixon did not know about the Watergate break in prior to it taking place. He messed up in trying to cover it up.

If Clinton had not lied under oath and suborned perjury from others, no impeachment.

Read "Truth at Any Cost: Ken Starr and the Unmaking of Bill Clinton"by Susan Schmidt, Michael Weisskopf. These two Washington Post reporters are not conservative ideologues by any stretch. You will see an even handed account of the way an amoral man gets into the situation of which you try to defend.

Was Kenneth Starr not commissioned by Clinton to investigate him? I really don't see what the liberals have to complain about. Clinton said investigate him and Starr did it. He asked and he received. I wasn't concerned with Monica. I was concerned with selling secrets to the Chinese.