I have never been a big fan of Turner, he is not a great defensive guy.

But he knows how to run an offense just as well as anyone. He didnt have a great career in Washington but he made Gus Ferotte a pro-bowl QB and we always had a pretty good offense.

Terpy Wrote:But he knows how to run an offense just as well as anyone. He didnt have a great career in Washington but he made Gus Ferotte a pro-bowl QB and we always had a pretty good offense.

While that may be true, D wins championships, and good D starts with good defensive coaching.

Thats what defensive coorinators are for.

Terpy Wrote:Thats what defensive coorinators are for.

Then they need a good one. They still should have waited for Romeo Cronell from the Patriots. That would have been the ideal hire.

Al Davis said they wanted an offensive guy.

cbfranchise3 Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:Thats what defensive coorinators are for.

Then they need a good one. They still should have waited for Romeo Cronell from the Patriots. That would have been the ideal hire.

i disagree. i don't think crennel has much to do with the defense. I think belichick is the one running that defense.

Belicheck said at a news conference that all credit goes to Cronell. I am going to take his word for it.

And Terpy, if Davis wanted an offensive guy, how about Charlie Weiss?

cbfranchise3 Wrote:Belicheck said at a news conference that all credit goes to Cronell. I am going to take his word for it.

And Terpy, if Davis wanted an offensive guy, how about Charlie Weiss?

Simple, he couldnt afford to wait any longer to make a choice. Turner is a better offensive mind than Weiss anywawys.

cbfranchise3 Wrote:Belicheck said at a news conference that all credit goes to Cronell. I am going to take his word for it.

And Terpy, if Davis wanted an offensive guy, how about Charlie Weiss?

oh please, if you were belichick would you say, "i deserve all of the credit."? of course not.

As for weiss, i agree. he turned brady into a great qb.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

cbfranchise3 Wrote:Belicheck said at a news conference that all credit goes to Cronell.  I am going to take his word for it. 

And Terpy, if Davis wanted an offensive guy, how about Charlie Weiss?

oh please, if you were belichick would you say, "i deserve all of the credit."? of course not.

As for weiss, i agree. he turned brady into a great qb.

I am just saying not all credit goes to Belicheck, at least some goes to Cronell, enough to give him a chance in Oakland.

Terpy Wrote:

cbfranchise3 Wrote:Belicheck said at a news conference that all credit goes to Cronell.  I am going to take his word for it. 

And Terpy, if Davis wanted an offensive guy, how about Charlie Weiss?

Simple, he couldnt afford to wait any longer to make a choice. Turner is a better offensive mind than Weiss anywawys.

I disagree that Turner is a better offensive mind. He did squat with Ricky Williams last year.

Since when is 1300 yards squat? :rolleyes:

And I guess you've never heard of Troy Aikman or Emmit Smith?

Even though Norv was the head coach of the 'Skins, I had a hard time watching his news conferences...he always had this sad look on his face and he always seemed like he was getting ready to cry. :(

Course, if it was at the hands of my 'Boys, then it wasn't that bad.

Tasha

Terpy Wrote:Since when is 1300 yards squat? :rolleyes:

And I guess you've never heard of Troy Aikman or Emmit Smith?

For Ricky Williams, 1300 is not that great.

What about Tom Brady?

cbfranchise3 Wrote:For Ricky Williams, 1300 is not that great.

why?

Terpy Wrote:

cbfranchise3 Wrote:For Ricky Williams, 1300 is not that great.

why?

Ricky is in the prime of his career, he should be pushing 2000. The mark of a great season is no longer 1000 yards, it is 1500.

Also, last season, there were the most horrible play calls by the Dolphins. That falls on Turner and Wannstedt. Both are mediocre coaches in my book.

You are insane, do you realize that only 4 have ever reached 2000 yards?

1300 yards is still a heck of a season. Don't you realize that he was 10th in the NFL in rushing yards???

I agree that 1000 yards is no longer a great barometer for Running backs but 1300 is still a great season.

Dont you realize that there are running backs in the hall of fame who never had a 1300 yard yeason???

Terpy Wrote:You are insane, do you realize that only 4 have ever reached 2000 yards?

1300 yards is still a heck of a season. Don't you realize that he was 10th in the NFL in rushing yards???

I agree that 1000 yards is no longer a great barometer for Running backs but 1300 is still a great season.

Dont you realize that there are running backs in the hall of fame who never had a 1300 yard yeason???

He should be pushing 2000, meaning 1750 or above. For his talent that is reasonable.

There are RB's who never had 1300 yards because it is a different game today.

Marcus Allen never ran for over 1300 yards...he played just 6 years ago. Has the game changed that much in six years?