The group speaking on C-SPAN last week said this was not a politically motivated action on their part. They said, more than once because reporters were asking them the same questions over and over, the reasons they were coming forward that they are outraged that Kerry is running on his Vietnam war record, which they all know to be crap. They added that Kerry is not qualified to be president because of his actions in Vietnam, and his actions upon returning to the USA after his "tour" of duty.

At this point, several came forward and specifically said that George W. Bush, in their opinions, was not qualified to be president either, perhaps more so than Kerry.

I've castigated the Right for their blind obedience and worship of Dubya, and now I castigate thee for your blind support of Kerry. Should he get elected (which ain't gonna happen) he would do many things and support much legislation that is not in the best interest of the common voter or taxpayer. He would work hard for two and a half years to appease his national party and his big-time contributors. After nearly three years in office, Kerry would then work hard to get re-elected.

To claim that a politician is honest on anything is insulting to my intelligence, and it should be to yours as well.

No blind support here. Those vets were rounded up and led by a man who was brought into the Republican fold by Charles Colson prior to Watergate. They are just one more piece of the neo-con smear machine.

Behind this group is John E O'Neil, who at Colson's request, began attacking John Kerry in 1971. He hired Texas corporate media consultant and Republican activist Merrie Spaeth to spearhead this operation. Spaeth previously coached Kenneth Starr before he gave his testimony urging that Clinton be impeached. The man who got her that job was Theodore Olson who was in charge of a dirty tricks operation against Clinton, and now serves as solicitor general in the Bush Justice Department. He is also Godfather to Spaeth's daughter. Spaeth was behind slanderous attack campaigns against John McCain, as well.

Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the "founder" of the group, is a strutting, blustery man with a hatred for "libruls" and a love for the spotlight. Read the expose on the Thanh Phong massacre and you'll be reminded of no one more than Col. Kurtz. The man is a psychopath, and this group and its accusations are a sham.

As for your your assessment of Kerry, while you are entitled to your opinion, you really ought to do the research that you castigate others for before you give it in public.

Oddball Wrote:No blind support here. Those vets were rounded up and led by a man who was brought into the Republican fold by Charles Colson prior to Watergate. They are just one more piece of the neo-con smear machine.

Behind this group is John E O'Neil, who at Colson's request, began attacking John Kerry in 1971. He hired Texas corporate media consultant and Republican activist Merrie Spaeth to spearhead this operation. Spaeth previously coached Kenneth Starr before he gave his testimony urging that Clinton be impeached. The man who got her that job was Theodore Olson who was in charge of a dirty tricks operation against Clinton, and now serves as solicitor general in the Bush Justice Department. He is also Godfather to Spaeth's daughter. Spaeth was behind slanderous attack campaigns against John McCain, as well.

Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the "founder" of the group, is a strutting, blustery man with a hatred for "libruls" and a love for the spotlight. Read the expose on the Thanh Phong massacre and you'll be reminded of no one more than Col. Kurtz. The man is a psychopath, and this group and its accusations are a sham.

As for your your assessment of Kerry, while you are entitled to your opinion, you really ought to do the research that you castigate others for before you give it in public.

In 1971 Kerry was attacking the gov's position and foreign policy in relation to Vietnam. They were not attacking Kerry as part of a personal campaign against him, they were attacking him and whomever else who was not in support the status quo.

The Spaeth connection, Ken Starr and Clinton aren't very relevant here.

While O'Neill and Hoffman might be big-time Republicans, the group of Vets saw Kerry in action in Vietnam, they know inside information to officers' political appointments and bringing up two or three names to discredit an entire group of over 100 constitutes several fallacies of logic, namely hasty generalization. The Spaeth connection and Colson constitutes a red herring--at least in the few statements you had on it. I will, nonetheless, look into whatever objective information I can find on this.

Must I go into the history and tradition of politically connected military officers, especially Yaleans and Harvardonians?

Perhaps at the beginning I should have illustrated my disillusionment with Kerry--the politician. He began his "service" to the nation by organizing a political group of Vets opposed to the Vietnam War, claiming it was something he felt very strongly about. Used this as a springboard to office, and when seeking the highest office of the land, he contradicts all of his previous efforts in this area (the Vietnam War) by claiming on Meet the Press that the big question is where did all that flowing brown hair go. He belittled his previous efforts in the name of political strategy--because his advisers know that going down that path again would be politically damaging, as it was in 1971, for the most part.

He told Congress and Dick Cavett that he commited war atrocities, as did many other servicemen in Vietnam. He doesn't mention it today, only claiming he was hot-headed, young, idealistic, whathaveyou.

I was enamored with Kerry when I met him and heard him speak in Madison County, MS several months ago. I thought he was genuine and thought-provoking. Now I think he's a politician.

These statements, recantations, etc in conjunction with the Vets' accounts of his service record expose Kerry for what he is--a politician, no different from the politically inexperienced George W. Bush.

Coppola's Appocalypse Now is a great movie as was his Col. Kurtz character, and entirely farfetched. Atrocities in war happen, rarely of the magnitude depicted in that movie.

KlutzDio I Wrote:I've castigated the Right for their blind obedience and worship of Dubya, and now I castigate thee for your blind support of Kerry.

You misspelled "blind hatred of Bush."