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sherman&grant Wrote:Some folks around here are non-stop sources of pontification on subjects about which they ridicule others' credentials for pontificating, while they do precisely the thing about which they complain. You're one of them. So fill us in; how many FOIA requests have you filed before foisting your noisome theories;
I filed dozens upon dozens of Freedom of Information Act requests during my eleven-year journalism career.

Quote:how many snitches have you cultivated

I never cultivated a snitch in someone else's newsroom.

Quote:what's your wardrobe look like,

Newsrooms grew more casual during the course of my career. At my first job, I wore a dress shirt and a tie rather often. At my last (and best) journalism job, corporate casual was the rule: khakis, Polo shirts, that kind of thing.

I never once, in 11 years, met a journalist who wore a hat remotely like the that dumb thing Drudge puts on his head.

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I knew a couple balding guys with a penchant for baseball caps. Also, at my first job, we had a copy editor who wore a green eyeshade, which was super old school. But he was approaching his 80s, I think.

I am absolutely certain Drudge wears that stupid hat because he thinks it makes him look like a journalist. In old movies, newspaper reporters wear those hats. Drudge has seen these movies. So he wears that dumb hat because he wants to look like a journalist.

It doesn't make him a journalist.

Quote:and what's your analytical basis for grading Drudge, his "detail sweating," his percentage of accuracy and his inclusion/exclusion of liberal points of view?

Detail sweating: Drudge does not do reporting. Instead, his M.O. is to cultivate snitches in real newsrooms and steal other people's reporting. That's what he does, and his entire body of "work" demonstrates that.

The biggest scoop of Drudge's career remains being first to alert the world about the significance of Monica Lewinsky. How did he get it?

A snitch at Newsweek:

<a href='http://www.drudgereport.com/ml.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.drudgereport.com/ml.htm</a>

Accuracy: We shouldn't even have to discuss this. Drudge's first Air America report (again, based on a snitch in a real newsroom) was woefully inadequate:

<a href='http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2004/04/14/20040414_233805_flash.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2...33805_flash.htm</a>

You will recall that Air America emphatically denied cash flow problems or a bounced check. Those details never made it into the Drudge Report.

So that's bad enough. But libel is far more serious.

You may remember that Drudge was sued for $30 million because Drudge put a "report" on his Web site that strongly implied Sidney Blumenthal, an aide to President Clinton, beat his wife.

He was wrong about that. The suit was eventually dropped -- and a big part of the reason why was the fact that a federal court ruled that Drudge was not a "reporter, news gatherer or journalist."

<a href='http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/9420.html#story-start' target='_blank'>http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/9420....tml#story-start</a>

He's a snot-nosed kid, a complete loser. He walks and talks like a journalist, and that's enough to fool some people. But he isn't a journalist. In fact, the federal government says so.

Conservative attack dog: Just listen to his radio show.
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Man, this has been a great morning for posts. Schad (a journalist) gets questioned about how much he knows about journalism, and MAKO (an officer in the reserves, I believe) gets blasted by chickenhawks regarding military service. What a great way to kill time until Comedy Central stops showing infomercials and gets back to regular programming. :roflol:
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Oddball Wrote:Man, this has been a great morning for posts. Schad (a journalist) gets questioned about how much he knows about journalism, and MAKO (an officer in the reserves, I believe) gets blasted by chickenhawks regarding military service. What a great way to kill time until Comedy Central stops showing infomercials and gets back to regular programming. :roflol:
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Shade, I like Drudge's hat, and do you know where I can get the green eyeshade? I would like to get it for the poker/beer nights.

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Schadenfreude Wrote:I filed dozens upon dozens of Freedom of Information Act requests during my eleven-year journalism career.

Just because you proclaim yourself a "journalist" doesn't make it so, not that it's a well-defined term of art anyway. I've popped off a few FOIA requests myself over the years, but that gives me no basis for contending Matt Drudge has never done so, as you did before I responded. As for his status in the news world, I thought Drudge always referred to himself as a "newsman," not a journalist. And if he affects a pose with the hat, so what? This summarizes the topic better than I could have:
<a href='http://www.ojr.org/ojr/business/1017969735.php' target='_blank'>Are you related to Doug Harbrecht?</a>
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The sheer irony of a liberal radio station falling into immediate financial desperation is proof that there is a God, and he has a sense of humor.
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Not quite as ironic as a Democratic President creating a record surplus and then having a Republican (P)resident come in behind him and create an astonishing deficit. :wave:
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sherman&amp;grant Wrote:
Schadenfreude Wrote:I filed dozens upon dozens of Freedom of Information Act requests during my eleven-year journalism career.

Just because you proclaim yourself a "journalist" doesn't make it so, not that it's a well-defined term of art anyway. I've popped off a few FOIA requests myself over the years, but that gives me no basis for contending Matt Drudge has never done so, as you did before I responded. As for his status in the news world, I thought Drudge always referred to himself as a "newsman," not a journalist. And if he affects a pose with the hat, so what? This summarizes the topic better than I could have:
<a href='http://www.ojr.org/ojr/business/1017969735.php' target='_blank'>Are you related to Doug Harbrecht?</a>
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Oddball Wrote:Not quite as ironic as a Democratic President creating a record surplus and then having a Republican (P)resident come in behind him and create an astonishing deficit. :wave:
Both those you speak of are sub-mediocre presidents --- although give Bush credit for weathering 9/11 pretty damn well.

Clinton is guilty of adultery -- and he got away with it. That is, unless you're from the school of "blowjobs don't count." Clinton enjoyed the .com and tech booms without the bust. His policy had little to do with the economic upturn. He gained fiscal surplus at the price of totally devastating CIA, FBI, and military budgets... thus undermining national security and becoming a large part of the reason 9/11 happened... though blame for that begins with Jimmy Carter.

Bush's massive deficit is acceptable policy in time of economic recovery and high levels of military activity. Federal spending increases GDP.... output is increased.... inventories run low, warehouses become empty .... companies up production, rehire .... I'll let your Economics 100 level knowledge or better take over from there.

IMO, the next decent president -- barring the miracle of Gary Nolan being elected -- will be Rudy Guliani.... and make no mistake.... if he runs, he'll be elected.
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Drudge make a bunch of money at what he does...10 cents per hit on his site ain't bad...Consider he has had:

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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:Both those you speak of are sub-mediocre presidents --- although give Bush credit for weathering 9/11 pretty damn well.

That is, unless you're from the school of "blowjobs don't count." Clinton enjoyed the .com and tech booms without the bust. His policy had little to do with the economic upturn. He gained fiscal surplus at the price of totally devastating CIA, FBI, and military budgets... thus undermining national security and becoming a large part of the reason 9/11 happened... though blame for that begins with Jimmy Carter.

Bush's massive deficit is acceptable policy in time of economic recovery and high levels of military activity. Federal spending increases GDP.... output is increased.... inventories run low, warehouses become empty .... companies up production, rehire .... I'll let your Economics 100 level knowledge or better take over from there.

IMO, the next decent president -- barring the miracle of Gary Nolan being elected -- will be Rudy Guliani.... and make no mistake.... if he runs, he'll be elected.
I don't know how many presidents you've lived under, but I can assure you that Clinton was way above "sub-mediocre" when compared to some of the boneheads I've seen in office. This country thrived under him, no matter how you choose to explain it away. On the other hand, Bush squandered the good will of the entire world and a chance to unite the American people under one cause. He has screwed up everything he's ever touched his entire life, and 9/11 was no different.

Quote:Clinton is guilty of adultery -- and he got away with it.&nbsp;


Of course he is, and other than the one old fart we had in the Oval Office who was too old to get it up, so did every other President in recent history...and probably throughout our entire history. The difference was that the others didn't have an opposition party both corrupt and self-righteous enough to spend 4 years and $70 million dollars of taxpayer money to document it. Adultery is something that he will have to take up with God, and I'm sure his marriage will always suffer due to it. But it wasn't anything that had any effect on his ability to lead this country. It was merely the issue that his enemies managed to sieze when all of the other made up ones didn't pan out. I wish that the worst thing our current leadership was guilty of were adultery.

Quote:He gained fiscal surplus at the price of totally devastating CIA, FBI, and military budgets... thus undermining national security and becoming a large part of the reason 9/11 happened... though blame for that begins with Jimmy Carter.


Utter nonsense. It amazes me how little context is applied to history by younger folks, but blaming Carter for anything is ludicrous. Jimmy Carter is a very good man, but he was the most ineffectual president I have ever seen. Not only did he have to contend with the Republicans, but much of his own party opposed him. He's accomplished much more as an ex-president than he ever managed when in office. As far as Clinton "devastating" the military, they didn't appear to be too devastated when Bush deployed Clinton's army in Afghanistan. Intelligence was a coordinated effort under Clinton, and he forced them to work together and be more efficient. Don't blame Bush's shortcomings on his predecessors or we'll be here all night.

Quote:Bush's massive deficit is acceptable policy in time of economic recovery and high levels of military activity.&nbsp; Federal spending increases GDP.... output is increased.... inventories run low, warehouses become empty .... companies up production, rehire .... I'll let your Economics 100 level knowledge or better take over from there.

Alan Greenspan must have missed Econ 101 then, as he disagrees with you. He recently spoke of a "yawning fiscal deficit" and predicted disaster if something isn't done to rectify Bush's idiocy. A conservative, but record estimate of $521 billion deficit this year alone is most certainly NOT acceptable.
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UCBearcats1125 Wrote:Drudge make a bunch of money at what he does...10 cents per hit on his site ain't bad...Consider he has had:

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Oddball Wrote:Alan Greenspan must have missed Econ 101 then, as he disagrees with you. He recently spoke of a "yawning fiscal deficit" and predicted disaster if something isn't done to rectify Bush's idiocy. A conservative, but record estimate of $521 billion deficit this year alone is most certainly NOT acceptable.
Yes... it's not a long term solution. It's only appropriate in time of economic recovery. Massive debt = massive setbacks in exchange ratio and depreciation of the dollar. It's a way of giving the Economy a ... CLEAR!! ... THUMP! --> but you just can't keep blasting the crap out of it when it's healthy again.
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UCBearcats1125 Wrote:Drudge make a bunch of money at what he does...10 cents per hit on his site ain't bad...Consider he has had:

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Oddball Wrote:Not quite as ironic as a Democratic President creating a record surplus and then having a Republican (P)resident come in behind him and create an astonishing deficit. :wave:
So the President controls the purse strings? :rolleyes: Umm, Ok. Damn I don't miss arguing with idiots.
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:
Oddball Wrote:Alan Greenspan must have missed Econ 101 then, as he disagrees with you. He recently spoke of a "yawning fiscal deficit" and predicted disaster if something isn't done to rectify Bush's idiocy. A conservative, but record estimate of $521 billion deficit this year alone is most certainly NOT acceptable.
Yes... it's not a long term solution. It's only appropriate in time of economic recovery. Massive debt = massive setbacks in exchange ratio and depreciation of the dollar. It's a way of giving the Economy a ... CLEAR!! ... THUMP! --> but you just can't keep blasting the crap out of it when it's healthy again.
No, Greenspan said that the current debt is to the point that it may have catastophic consequences unless very drastic and painful measures are undertaken.
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RebelKev Wrote:Damn I don't miss arguing with idiots.
With your unique qualifications, I'm surprised.
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I had no idea Drudge made 10 cents per hit? Where did you get that info?
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:Yes... it's not a long term solution. It's only appropriate in time of economic recovery. Massive debt = massive setbacks in exchange ratio and depreciation of the dollar. It's a way of giving the Economy a ... CLEAR!! ... THUMP! --> but you just can't keep blasting the crap out of it when it's healthy again.
Maybe you could start drinking *after* you post from now on. . .

Published on Thursday, January 8, 2004 by the New York Times

I.M.F. Says Rise in U.S. Debts Is Threat to World's Economy

by Elizabeth Becker and Edmund L Andrews

WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 — With its rising budget deficit and ballooning trade imbalance, the United States is running up a foreign debt of such record-breaking proportions that it threatens the financial stability of the global economy, according to a report released Wednesday by the International Monetary Fund.



Prepared by a team of I.M.F. economists, the report sounded a loud alarm about the shaky fiscal foundation of the United States, questioning the wisdom of the Bush administration's tax cuts and warning that large budget deficits pose "significant risks" not just for the United States but for the rest of the world.



The report warns that the United States' net financial obligations to the rest of the world could be equal to 40 percent of its total economy within a few years — "an unprecedented level of external debt for a large industrial country," according to the fund, that could play havoc with the value of the dollar and international exchange rates.



The danger, according to the report, is that the United States' voracious appetite for borrowing could push up global interest rates and thus slow global investment and economic growth.



"Higher borrowing costs abroad would mean that the adverse effects of U.S. fiscal deficits would spill over into global investment and output," the report said.



White House officials dismissed the report as alarmist, saying that President Bush has already vowed to reduce the budget deficit by half over the next five years. The deficit reached $374 billion last year, a record in dollar terms but not as a share of the total economy, and it is expected to exceed $400 billion this year.



But many international economists said they were pleased that the report raised the issue.



"The I.M.F. is right," said C. Fred Bergsten, director of the Institute for International Economics in Washington. "If those twin deficits — of the federal budget and the trade deficit — continue to grow you are increasing the risk of a day of reckoning when things can get pretty nasty."



Administration officials have made it clear they are not alarmed about the United States' burgeoning external debt or the declining value of the dollar, which has lost more than one-quarter of its value against the euro in the last 18 months and which hit new lows earlier this week.



"Without those tax cuts I do not believe the downturn would have been one of the shortest and shallowest in U.S. history," said John B. Taylor, under secretary of the Treasury for international affairs.



Though the International Monetary Fund has criticized the United States on its budget and trade deficits repeatedly in the last few years, this report was unusually lengthy and pointed. And the I.M.F. went to lengths to publicize the report and seemed intent on getting American attention.



"I think it's encouraging that these are issues that are now at play in the presidential campaign that's just now getting under way," said Charles Collyns, deputy director of the I.M.F.'s Western Hemisphere department. "We're trying to contribute to persuade the climate of public opinion that this is an important issue that has to be dealt with, and political capital will need to be expended."



The I.M.F. has often been accused of being an adjunct of the United States, its largest shareholder.



But in the report, fund economists warned that the long-term fiscal outlook was far grimmer, predicting that underfunding for Social Security and Medicare will lead to shortages as high as $47 trillion over the next 70 years or nearly 500 percent of the current gross domestic product in the coming decades.



Some outside economists remain sanguine, noting that the United States is hardly the only country to run big budget deficits and that the nation's underlying economic conditions continue to be robust.



"Is the U.S. fiscal position unique? Probably not," said Kermit L. Schoenholtz, chief economist at Citigroup Global Markets. Japan's budget deficit is much higher than that of the United States, Mr. Schoenholtz said, and those of Germany and France are climbing rapidly.



In a paper presented last weekend, Robert E. Rubin, the former secretary of the Treasury, said that the federal budget was "on an unsustainable path" and that the "scale of the nation's projected budgetary imbalance is now so large that the risk of severe adverse consequences must be taken very seriously, although it is impossible to predict when such consequences may occur."



Other economists said they were afraid that this was a replay of the 1980's when the United States went from the world's largest creditor nation to its biggest debtor nation following tax cuts and a large military build-up under President Ronald Reagan.



John Vail, senior strategist for Mizuho Securities USA, said the I.M.F. report reflected the concerns of many foreign investors.



"I would say they reflect the majority of international opinion about the United States," he said. And he added, "The currency doesn't have the safe-haven status that it has had in recent years."



Many economists predict that the dollar will continue to decline for some time, and that the declining dollar will help lift American industry by making American products cheaper in countries with strengthening currencies.



"In the short term, it is probably helping the United States," said Robert D. Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International.



Fund officials and most economists agreed that the short-term impact of deficit spending has helped pull the economy through a succession of crisis. And unlike Argentina and other developing nations that suffered through debt crises, the United States remains a magnet for foreign investment.



Treasury Secretary John W. Snow did not address the fund's report directly. But in a speech to the United States Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday, he said Mr. Bush's tax cuts were central to spurring growth and reiterated the administration's pledge to reduce the deficit in half within five years.



"The deficit's important," Mr. Snow said. "It's going to be addressed. We're going to cut it in half. You're going to see the administration committed to it. But we need that growth in the economy. We had an obligation to the American work force and the American businesses to get the economy on a stronger path. We've done it and we have time to deal with the deficit."



But the report said that even if the administration succeeded it would not be enough to address the long-term problems posed by retiring baby boomers.



Moreover, the fund economists said that the administration's tax cuts could eventually lower United States productivity and the budget deficits could raise interest rates by as much as one percentage point in the industrialized world.



"An abrupt weakening of investor sentiments vis-à-vis the dollar could possibly lead to adverse consequences both domestically and abroad," the report said.



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Schadenfreude Wrote:
UCBearcats1125 Wrote:Drudge make a bunch of money at what he does...10 cents per hit on his site ain't bad...Consider he has had:

8,648,358 IN PAST 24 HOURS
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