UCBearcats1125 Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:They don't require a password. Once you watch the ad you're in.

As for copying and pasting articles, according to articles I have read (I am a Web developer) this is a no-no. According to the law school graduate who is currently studying for the bar that I cohabitate with, it is a legal grey area.

Either way, if anyone would like to read the article they can click and get there with a minimum of effort. If it is too much effort, don't click.

If you do not put the article infront of most people...they are not going to go out of their way watch and ad then read most if not all of the article

You're right. Salon became profitable since adopting this model, but obviously it must be too complicated for most people. :rolleyes:

No, I am not overreacting. I didn't suggest that this was some terrible crime, or that anyone would be hunted down. However, as a guest in someone else's house, so to speak, it would be highly rude of me to do something that could potentially get them in trouble.

Again, if you are too lazy or too inept to view the link, then don't bother. On the other hand, you might actually learn something about Kerry and this current campaign season if you choose to go read it.

I wonder how many 30 second ads could have been viewed in the time it has taken you to think of and type all of these responses?

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:They don't require a password. Once you watch the ad you're in.

As for copying and pasting articles, according to articles I have read (I am a Web developer) this is a no-no. According to the law school graduate who is currently studying for the bar that I cohabitate with, it is a legal grey area.

Either way, if anyone would like to read the article they can click and get there with a minimum of effort. If it is too much effort, don't click.

If you do not put the article infront of most people...they are not going to go out of their way watch and ad then read most if not all of the article

That do 'splain a lot.

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:That is exactly what I am saying...Thanks You...Me trolling please explain

Odd, I don't want to have to watch and ad to read the article.

Fock that ad or whatever the heck they are selling.

UC--you are trolling in that you are saying intentionally ridiculous things in order to steer any discussion away from something of substance.
Oddball, like he said, does not merely wish to avoid anyone hunting him down, he wants to play by the rules. Since he's not certain of the rules in this area, he is avoiding any possible wrongdoing BECAUSE HE WANTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. HIS INTENT IS TO DO THAT WHICH IS ETHICALLY CORRECT, not to escape mere punishment. In ethics, this is a deontological approach, or simply intent based ethics.
Now we see where your sense of ethics is, UC! You probably feel as though an action is okay as long as you don't get caught, a similar justification used by all those individuals who cheat on their taxes and deprive our military of their rightful funds. "...well, I ain't gonna get caught..."

Back to copy and pasting--I don't see how this violate's any laws. A copwrite infraction would be taking the entiretly of their site, the graphics, stories, the ads, all of the links, the "about us page," etc. and then passing it off as your own site or NCAABBS' site.
It would also be a violation in NCAABBS decided to offer news pages with the exact same graphic display,whether or not the articles were the same, as the Salon site.

I'm sure Salon would have no trouble with someone copying and pasting an article on their site, with author's name and url,and then emailing it to a friend. Actually, with my newspaper's site, we encourage that. We want our name out there and hopefully someone will come along and buy an ad.

I don't see any violation with copying and pasting, unless of course you pass that off as your own work, own site, own stories, etc.

KlutzDio I Wrote:Odd, I don't want to have to watch and ad to read the article.

Fock that ad or whatever the heck they are selling.

I hear you, but watching TV must be a ***** for you. :D

Oddball Wrote:I hear you, but watching TV must be a ***** for you. :D

No commercials on PBS or C-SPAN, but I do avoid commercial television unless my favorite college team is on. :wave:

Other than that, we are continually bombarded with advertising messages that it makes me want to puke!

Not real sure how my ethics come in to play here with copy and pasting an artice that the site wants you to copy and paste so it can get its name out there.

And for this whole "depriving the military" thing...If I happened to get drafted I would proudly put on the uniform and fight for the greatest nation the world has ever seen....I am not saying this to say it its the truth...I deeply mean it...So I guess my ethics aren't as screwed up as you may think

You're allowed to enlist.

<a href='http://www.goarmy.com/index03.htm' target='_blank'>Why wait to be drafted?</a> :wave:

KlutzDio I Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:I hear you, but watching TV must be a ***** for you.  :D

No commercials on PBS or C-SPAN, but I do avoid commercial television unless my favorite college team is on. :wave:

Other than that, we are continually bombarded with advertising messages that it makes me want to puke!

How do you know what to buy??? :D

Yeah, I don't watch a lot of TV myself. Although, at my age, a commercial now and then keeps me from needing Depends when I do. :eek:

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:Not real sure how my ethics come in to play here with copy and pasting an artice that the site wants you to copy and paste so it can get its name out there.

And for this whole "depriving the military" thing...If I happened to get drafted I would proudly put on the uniform and fight for the greatest nation the world has ever seen....I am not saying this to say it its the truth...I deeply mean it...So I guess my ethics aren't as screwed up as you may think

UC, in an earlier post you said:

"And you are over reacting...If you do somehow get in trouble is all they will ask you to do is remove it...The police are not going to come and pick you up...The FBI is not going to start and investigation...There is more to worry about than copy and pasting stuff "

This represents the idea that you believe the only thing wrong with copyright infringement is getting caught.

Let's suppose that it is indeed illegal to copy and paste things from one commercial site such as Salon to another site-NCAABBS. This would then be wrong regardless of whether one gets caught doing it. It would be wrong because Oddball, like myself, agreed to follow the rules. To disobey the rules whether out of ignorance of the rules or out of complete disrespect for the rules would be, quite simply, unethical.

That is why I likened the scenario to paying taxes. Many can cheat on their taxes and they do thinking they will never get caught. It is still wrong to cheat on one's taxes. If you don't like taxes, then lobby your state rep, congressman, governor, etc. to lower your taxes, or quit working.

It is wrong to speed, even if one may not get caught doing so. It is wrong to shoplift, although everyone may be doing it, or one may never get caught doing it. It is wrong to beat your spouse even if you will never get caught doing it. It is wrong to beat your dog, although you may never be hunted down and locked up by PETA or the SPCA for doing so.

I don't see how your sense of duty when drafted has anything to do with an ethical code in which it is okay to do something as long as one does not get caught doing it.

Many claim they support the troops, but in the same breath they whine and groan about paying taxes. Support for the troops is great, wave the flag, have a parade, put a sticker on your car, tie a yellow ribbon around the ol oak tree is fine and dandy. To really, really support the troops would be to gladly pay one's taxes while not whining or bee-atching about it.

Most of Americans' tax dollars provide DIRECT support for our troops, while yellow ribbons and U.S. flag stickers are indirect support for our troops. Taxes support the logistics, equipment costs and salaries of those in the military. Do you think those soldiers and Marines over there do what they do for free? Do you think a B2 bomber flies for free? Do you think charitable organizations pay their salaries? Where do you think monies for the military come from?

How much of a soldier's salary comes from tying a yellow ribbon around an oak tree? How much of a soldier's salary comes from having a parade?

Odd, I buy what I like, and I don't buy much because I'm poor. I spend much more per month on insurance, interest and student loans than anything else. After all that, I mostly buy beer. I like that low-carb Michelob more than anything because I can drink 100 of them without getting a headache.

Even though I don't watch TV, I am still exposed to advertisements daily.

KlutzDio I Wrote:I don't see how your sense of duty when drafted has anything to do with an ethical code in which it is okay to do something as long as one does not get caught doing it.

Ethics doesn't have anything to do with copy and pasting...And the whole FBI thing is a little something called SARCASM...

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:

KlutzDio I Wrote:I don't see how your sense of duty when drafted has anything to do with an ethical code in which it is okay to do something as long as one does not get caught doing it.

Ethics doesn't have anything to do with copy and pasting...And the whole FBI thing is a little something called SARCASM...

So you are trolling.

You failed to get my point about deontological ethics.

KlutzDio I Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:I hear you, but watching TV must be a ***** for you.&nbsp; :D

No commercials on PBS or C-SPAN, but I do avoid commercial television unless my favorite college team is on. :wave:

Other than that, we are continually bombarded with advertising messages that it makes me want to puke!

Ironically, I've recently found more original thought put into commercials than much of the programming on commercial television.

KlutzDio I Wrote:So you are trolling.

You failed to get my point about deontological ethics.

I am not trolling....My ethics have nothing to do with this and neither do yours

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:

KlutzDio I Wrote:So you are trolling.

You failed to get my point about deontological ethics.

I am not trolling....My ethics have nothing to do with this and neither do yours

Perhaps you should read the link below.

<a href='http://www.iep.utm.edu/d/duties.htm' target='_blank'>Deontological ethics explained for the learning disabled.</a>

KlutzDio I Wrote:

UCBearcats1125 Wrote:

KlutzDio I Wrote:So you are trolling.

You failed to get my point about deontological ethics.

I am not trolling....My ethics have nothing to do with this and neither do yours

Perhaps you should read the link below.

<a href='http://www.iep.utm.edu/d/duties.htm' target='_blank'>Deontological ethics explained for the learning disabled.</a>

I don't care what other people put online about this I want to know what you think and say in your own words

Well, I told you in my own words. You didn't get it, and then whined and complained about not being able to understand what it was Odd and I were telling you.

You can re-read our posts, just scroll up the page after opening the thread. It is all explained for you, and I suggest using the link provided to understand and grasp the terminology employed in our earlier posts.

Good luck! :wave:

KlutzDio I Wrote:Well, I told you in my own words. You didn't get it, and then whined and complained about not being able to understand what it was Odd and I were telling you.

You can re-read our posts, just scroll up the page after opening the thread. It is all explained for you, and I suggest using the link provided to understand and grasp the terminology employed in our earlier posts.

Good luck! :wave:

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Quote:John Kerry is in the middle, waving now and then to well-wishers who can't see him through the SUV's dark-tinted, bulletproof glass.

GENIUS!!!! :lolup:

Quote:The Bush administration's "arrogance" has "cost Americans billions of dollars and too many lives," Kerry says.
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By Thursday evening he was in Green Bay, where he promised a crowd of veterans and military families that he would "never send troops into harm's way without sending enough troops to get the job done and without a plan to win the peace."

Does he not realize that more troops means more money spent/more equipment needed/more logistics needed? Also, there has been a plan for peace, and it has been in effect for some time now.


Way to advertise the Mazda RX-8. Foriegn Cars...




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DukeofDrums Wrote:Way to advertise the Mazda RX-8. Foriegn Cars...

Name a car, or auto manufacturer in which their products are not produced overseas! :D