<a href='http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/26/campaigns.527s/index.html' target='_blank'>Bush asks McCain to help block 527s</a>

Bravo President Bush!!!! Talk about taking the high ground on this. It's time for the Democrats to put up or shut up. A piece of fast track legislation could end attacks from both sides, but since the Democrats are spending more money through 527's, who wants to bet they will kill this before it ever gets out of committee.


Let's see how John Flipper Kerry responds.

It's too bad it came to John Cleland rolling up to Bush's Crawford ranch in his wheel chair before Bush did anything.

From the article........


"Cleland called the campaign by the veterans' group "a campaign of character assassination" and accused the Bush campaign of being involved in it.

"We want George Bush to put up or shut up," Cleland said. "Stand up to the plate and say, 'This is wrong. An attack on valorous service of a fellow American is wrong.' And he's behind it, and his campaign is behind it."

"If the president of the U.S. does not stick up for veterans who distinguish themselves in war," he asked, "who will he stick up for?"

*******

But if it will end this silly sheet from both sides then I'm all for it.

Bush will be forced now to get down to addressing the real issues like the economy, education, Gay marriage (boy his V.P. really dropped a zinger on him didn't he?) foreign policy........ that's what he's truly scared of.

Who's John Cleland? Bush isn't involved with the Swift Vets and you seem to overlook the fact that they TOO are damn veterans and deserve to be heard. Why are they speaking out? Because this moron came back after only 4.5 months and trashed the hell out of them. O'Neill, one of the major players in SBV voted for Gore on '00. It's Cleland that is out of line. Just because he lost 3 limbs in Vietnam due to horseplaying with a grenade doesn't mean he knows more about what is going on than anyone else. You guys on the left have PhD's in character assassination. Remember questioning whethe Dole earned his Purple Hearts? Probably not. Remember equating Bush to Hitler? Remember talking about black churches burning? Just today these "celebs" were talking **** about Bush. I ask again, when are Kerry's attornies going to step down?

Bush should lay off this and state, he is for free speech from all spectrums. The hell with doing away with them. Just because you guys lay out 70+ million dollars worth and it can't compete with one little group isn't Bush's fault.

Quote:It's too bad it came to John Cleland rolling up to Bush's Crawford ranch in his wheel chair before Bush did anything.

You mean Max Cleland?

And that had nothing to do with it and any assertion that it did is dumb. Bush has been condemning ALL these ads for weeks. Only Kerry and the other conspiracy theory liberals are accusing him of being behind the Swift boat vet ads.

Quote:"Cleland called the campaign by the veterans' group "a campaign of character assassination" and accused the Bush campaign of being involved in it.

Ah good old Max, he espouses the lies with the best of him. Since he owes his job and that nice $136,000 per year he gets to Bush you'd think he'd have a little more gratitude.

Nice to know my tax dollars are funding his anti-Bush activities.:rolleyes:

Quote:Bush will be forced now to get down to addressing the real issues like the economy, education, Gay marriage (boy his V.P. really dropped a zinger on him didn't he?) foreign policy........ that's what he's&nbsp; truly scared of.

Apparently you've forgotten who made a war that was fought 30 years ago the issue in this election. That would have been Kerry. All Bush has said is the Kerry served honorably and should be proud of his record.

Kerry need only look to himself to blame for these ads. No one else.

....and you have to be dense to expect us to believe that you think it's Bush that isn't talking about the issues. Kerry's entire platform has been on his short service. Oh, besides what he "will" do. Hey,. what HAS he done? He's been in office for 19 years and missed a helluva lot of votes. What the hell has he done Trooper? ...and if it's so great, why isn't he running on it?

Kerry's a joke and you guys can't live with your mistake of nominating the inept bastard.

Quote:He's been in office for 19 years and missed a helluva lot of votes. What the hell has he done Trooper? ...

He's talked about vietnam a lot. :D

The fact is they, and Kerry, don't want to talk about what he's done. Because 1) it hasn't been much and 2) what he has done and the votes he's taken would sink any person running for President.

He's running from his Senate record, and the media is all to happy to let him.

BTW Trooper, you must have missed the thread by Ninerfan, and a few others, about when Cleland went to the ranch and having someone offer to deliver his/Kerry's letter. The guy stated he would if he'd deliver this to Kerry:

[quote][b]Letter to John Kerry

August 25, 2004

Senator John Kerry
304 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Kerry,

We are pleased to welcome your campaign representatives to Texas today. We honor all our veterans, all whom have worn the uniform and served our country. We also honor the military and National Guard troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. We are very proud of all of them and believe they deserve our full support.

That’s why so many veterans are troubled by your vote AGAINST funding for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, after you voted FOR sending them into battle. And that’s why we are so concerned about the comments you made AFTER you came home from Vietnam. You accused your fellow veterans of terrible atrocities – and, to this day, you have never apologized. Even last night, you claimed to be proud of your post-war condemnation of our actions.

We’re proud of our service in Vietnam. We served honorably in Vietnam and we were deeply hurt and offended by your comments when you came home.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t build your convention and much of your campaign around your service in Vietnam, and then try to say that only those veterans who agree with you have a right to speak up. There is no double standard for our right to free speech. We all earned it.

You said in 1992 “we do not need to divide America over who served and how.

Wonder if Cleland delivered it.

Trooper Wrote:It's too bad it came to John Cleland rolling up to Bush's Crawford ranch in his wheel chair before Bush did anything.

Actually, it's too bad that Senator Kerry didn't do anything if he's so concerned. He is a senator for crying out loud. He can propose legislation too.

Of course, if you look at his record, maybe he doesn't know how to propose legislation.

RebelKev Wrote:....and you have to be dense to expect us to believe that you think it's Bush that isn't talking about the issues. Kerry's entire platform has been on his short service. Oh, besides what he "will" do. Hey,. what HAS he done? He's been in office for 19 years and missed a helluva lot of votes. What the hell has he done Trooper? ...and if it's so great, why isn't he running on it?

Kerry's a joke and you guys can't live with your mistake of nominating the inept bastard.

What issues?....... let him address the new poverty statistics.

Bush has been either on vacation or riding the Swiftboat vets wave avoiding any mention of any issues.

The same could be said for Bush. What the hell has he done and why doesn't he run on his record? He's going to be eaten alive on the issues regarding economy, education, healthcare and etc..

He's been hiding long enough it's time for him to speak up on something besides Iraq.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him come out at the convention dressed in full combat gear, carrying an M-16, and wearing a little green beret. :laugh:

9/11, stock market collapse, corporate scandal, inherited recession, hmmmm.... Yep, I would say the country is doing pretty damn good under Bush's leadership and I don't intend on voting for someone that is untested...and when he WAS, was inept as hell and missed most crucial votes on intelligence. He voted for tax increases on every bill that came to him and voted against most bills that had to do with defense. Clearly the moron isn't qualified to be the PotUS.

.....and like I said, if his Senate record was to be desired.......he'd run on it. Why isn't he doing that Trooper? (Hint: I know)

The democrats are hypocrites, period.

They will scream and yell about these ads, but they'll be damned if they are going to take them off the air. Afterall, they have 80 million dollars wrapped up in them!!

Hypocrites, Hypocrites, Hypocrites. That's all I can say.

Trooper Wrote:What the hell has he done and why doesn't he run on his record? He's going to be eaten alive on the issues regarding economy, education, healthcare and etc..

i for one, love the tax cuts, no child left behind, and the kick *** Health savings accounts. My favorite thing has definitely been, the idea to privatize most of social security.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

Trooper Wrote:What the hell has he done and why doesn't he run on his record?&nbsp; He's going to be eaten alive on the issues regarding economy, education, healthcare and etc..

i for one, love the tax cuts, no child left behind, and the kick *** Health savings accounts. My favorite thing has definitely been, the idea to privatize most of social security.

Not only that, he's buying into the Fair Tax Plan.

<a href='http://www.fairtax.org' target='_blank'>http://www.fairtax.org</a>

Trooper Wrote:What issues?....... let him address the new poverty statistics.

What a joke! The number changes three tenths of a point and everyone gets aplopetic. That is no change at all..............I know, if is if you are one of the three tenths. Well, the statistical difference is nothing. To the extent that represents real numbers, it is caused by teenagers having babies (the "child" poverty rate went up disproportionally).

The same with the so called "jobless numbers". It goes up 5500 more than expected and the sky is falling. In a working population of 150 million+, 5500 is no change.

Quit listening just to CNN and do some research of your own

RandyMc Wrote:What a joke! The number changes three tenths of a point and everyone gets aplopetic.

That three tenths of a point represents 1 million people.