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Here is an interesting article that provides the best comparative analysis I have seen yet on Iraq versus previous US conflicts.

<a href='http://slate.msn.com/id/2111432/' target='_blank'>"Iraq 2004 Looks Like Vietnam 1966"</a>

On Iraq the authors conclude the following:

"After factoring in medical, doctrinal, and technological improvements, infantry duty in Iraq circa 2004 comes out just as intense as infantry duty in Vietnam circa 1966"

Even though the article is published in Slate Magazine, do yourself a favor and read the entire article before you attack their conclusions. It is written by Phillip Carter and Owen West, Carter is an attorney and former Army officer who writes on military and legal affairs from Los Angeles. West, is a trader for Goldman Sachs, and served in Operation Iraqi Freedom with the Marines.

The final paragraph sums up their analysis and recomendations.

"Critics of the war may use this analysis as one more piece of ammunition to attack the effort; some supporters may continue to refer to casualties as "light," noting that typically tens of thousands of Americans must die in war before domestic support crumbles. Both miss the point. The casualty statistics make clear that our nation is involved in a war whose intensity on the ground matches that of previous American wars. Indeed, the proportional burden on the infantryman is at its highest level since World War I. With next year's budget soon to be drafted, it is time for Washington to finally address their needs accordingly."
01-01-2005 03:55 PM
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.....and ALL of your authors are throwing in their OWN bias against this President. Shall I bring up the thread that had my correlation between the two wars again?
01-01-2005 09:09 PM
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I believe your "correllation" was proved to be bogus RebelKev. Also, I don't think you'll find anybody here Democrat or Republican that thinks Saddam was a good guy. The question is are we fighting the right enemy right now? Should we be concentrating our efforts on OBL? These are the questions alot of people are asking.
01-03-2005 02:00 PM
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Reno79 Wrote:Here is an interesting article that provides the best comparative analysis I have seen yet on Iraq versus previous US conflicts.

<a href='http://slate.msn.com/id/2111432/' target='_blank'>"Iraq 2004 Looks Like Vietnam 1966"</a>

On Iraq the authors conclude the following:

"After factoring in medical, doctrinal, and technological improvements, infantry duty in Iraq circa 2004 comes out just as intense as infantry duty in Vietnam circa 1966"
Translation: As soon as we arbitararily remove all the overwhelming differences, we can pretend the similarities btween these two wars are signficiant. (And we can collect our check.)

A pathetic excuse for journalism.
01-03-2005 02:27 PM
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JTiger Wrote:I believe your "correllation" was proved to be bogus RebelKev.
By who? It was a simple formula. There is a very weak linear correlation between the two. Just because you want the outcome to be different, doesn't mean it isn't true.
01-03-2005 03:10 PM
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Also, Zarqawi is proof positive that UBL isn't our only concern. International Terrorism is. Bush made that clear. Did selective listening prevent you from hearing it? There isn't one head that can be cut off that will make terrorism cease to exist. There are many heads. You have to take out the areas that allow it to fester. This was the reason for Iraq. Anyone would be a fool to think that a dead Bin Laden would mean a death blow to terrorism.
01-03-2005 03:14 PM
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RebelKev Wrote:
JTiger Wrote:I believe your "correllation" was proved to be bogus RebelKev.
By who? It was a simple formula. There is a very weak linear correlation between the two. Just because you want the outcome to be different, doesn't mean it isn't true.
[QUOTE] I know the Vietnam war was going on in the 50's. We really didn't start until about '65. I used '66 because that was what I found on that site.
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It was proven by you. You use selected information on a site and pass it off as a complete study. I think you need to revisit your college statistics class notes or text.
01-04-2005 09:58 AM
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JTiger,Jan 4 2005, 09:58 AM Wrote:
RebelKev,Jan 3 2005, 03:10 PM Wrote:[QUOTE=JTiger,Jan 3 2005, 02:00 PM] I believe your "correllation" was proved to be bogus RebelKev.
By who? It was a simple formula. There is a very weak linear correlation between the two. Just because you want the outcome to be different, doesn't mean it isn't true.
Quote: I know the Vietnam war was going on in the 50's. We really didn't start until about '65. I used '66 because that was what I found on that site.
Quote:It was proven by you. You use selected information on a site and pass it off as a complete study. I think you need to revisit your college statistics class notes or text.
It was proven by you. You use selected information on a site and pass it off as a complete study. I think you need to revisit your college statistics class notes or text.

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Damn, missed this.

Like I said, we didn't get there as a military force until '65. Shall I add the deaths from '65 in and make my point stronger? I can do that, you know. The correlation between the two is weak at best.....no matter what you, or your liberal friends, "want" to believe.


BTW, I don't need to "revisit" anything, especially coming from the advice of someone that can't even get basic html code right. I'm doing just fine. (BTW, I just did a quote on this, if you knew the code, it would't have shown up like this. Want me to fix it for you?)
01-07-2005 12:14 AM
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Thanks Nick Burns my companies computer guy. You just proved how much of a geek you are by talking about "basic html code." I'l bet you Ole Miss guys are a ton of fun at parties.
01-07-2005 09:11 AM
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JTiger Wrote:Thanks Nick Burns my companies computer guy. You just proved how much of a geek you are by talking about "basic html code." I'l bet you Ole Miss guys are a ton of fun at parties.
Yeah, nothing but geeks at Ole Miss:

University of Mississippi's
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#5 Their Students (Almost) Never Study Academics
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#10 Students Most Nostalgic for Ronald Reagan Politics


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
01-07-2005 09:53 AM
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I guess Dungeons and Dragons takes up alot of time.
01-07-2005 10:06 AM
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JTiger Wrote:I guess Dungeons and Dragons takes up alot of time.
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01-07-2005 10:14 AM
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I guess you lost when you started talking about html code. Oh well, doesn't bother me. I do appreciate your lively comebacks though.
01-07-2005 10:25 AM
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JTiger Wrote:I guess you lost when you started talking about html code. Oh well, doesn't bother me. I do appreciate your lively comebacks though.
I only brought HTML code up because you brought up college statistics class notes. Just pointing out a hypocrisy, oh gifted one.
01-07-2005 10:39 AM
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