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Re: scout state rankings
dscat Wrote:http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2007_StateRankings.html
we did well in georgia, but TN and MS not so much
well, MS only has 30 listed...GA has 75 - -if they cut that list to 30 we would have 0 . . . so I guess its all in how you look at it...
I would feel better if we could nail down a few of those listed on the GA list...like Tukes, Elder and Massaquoi
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What's the deal with Massaquoi, he's been listed high interest all year, but not much press. Seems like he would be a big pick up at lb
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don't we usually have at least a couple out of that top 30 in MS, and maybe even a couple in TN every year. I may be wrong about this, and I hope that I am, but damn, we could really fall on our face with this class.
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Re: massaquoi
dscat Wrote:What's the deal with Massaquoi, he's been listed high interest all year, but not much press. Seems like he would be a big pick up at lb
The word is grades are the problem with him, hence the lack of offers. More than likely he's JC bound.
I would expect Tukes may visit pretty soon. And Elder is a mystery. Very good prospect, I had heard at one time he was a strong Arkansas lean, but that was several weeks ago and even his status in regards to visits has been quiet. If I'm not mistaken, he played with one of our signees from last year, Winston Bowens and we were in the thick of things. Maybe some of the staff moves threw a wrench in things.
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I posted about these rankings on the main board.
I didn't look at all the states' rankings, but focusing on the south. non-BCS schools at this point are doing terrible as far as commitments in TX, AR, TN, AL, MS, GA, and FL. BCS-bias in the rankings aside, there were less than 15 non-BCS commitments out of those states. And with TX and FL you are talking top 100 lists. Even the flagship isn't getting any TX commitments. Even after thought BCS schools like Vandy and Baylor are getting multiple commitments.
The rich get richer, and rift continues to grow wider.
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ChattTiger Wrote:I posted about these rankings on the main board.
I didn't look at all the states' rankings, but focusing on the south. non-BCS schools at this point are doing terrible as far as commitments in TX, AR, TN, AL, MS, GA, and FL. BCS-bias in the rankings aside, there were less than 15 non-BCS commitments out of those states. And with TX and FL you are talking top 100 lists. Even the flagship isn't getting any TX commitments. Even after thought BCS schools like Vandy and Baylor are getting multiple commitments.
The rich get richer, and rift continues to grow wider.
Careful there Chicken Little. The sky isn't falling. Those services are set up to serve the programs that bring the most subscribers to them. If the subscriber base comes to Scout or Rivals to track and discuss BCS school recruiting, then Scout and Rivals is going to dedicate their manpower to deliver information about the recruits of those schools. In fact, many of the scouts that are giving talent reports to the services work directly for BCS schools.
Don't be surprised that Memphis, Houston or any other Non-BCS school doesn't show up well with the recruiting services. I'm sure that Boise State hasn't had great showings either.
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I realize that is the case, which is why on the other thread I pointed out the BCS bias in those services. But the reality is that not many true 4 or 5 star players are going to fall all the way through the cracks such that they don't end up somewhere on these state lists.
The main point is that the non-BCS schools, going head to head with the BCS schools whose fans fund these sites, are having a hard time getting the players. Seemingly harder than in the past.
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ChattTiger Wrote:I realize that is the case, which is why on the other thread I pointed out the BCS bias in those services. But the reality is that not many true 4 or 5 star players are going to fall all the way through the cracks such that they don't end up somewhere on these state lists.
The main point is that the non-BCS schools, going head to head with the BCS schools whose fans fund these sites, are having a hard time getting the players. Seemingly harder than in the past.
I know that you've been around long enough to know how the game is played. Scout and Rivals will even go so far as to downplay big non-BCS signings. It's easy to do since the BCS guys are doing the grading.
I honestly don't know what to think of this year's signings vs. past years. College Football is getting bigger and bigger every year, and who knows if that means that smaller schools will rise with the tide, or if the big schools will grow at the expense of smaller schools. Rutgers and South Florida made a splash in 2006 (BCS $$ driven), but Boise State has continued to defy the odds.
Time will tell. I just don't want to see our program get left in the dust. We won't truly know what the effects are until it's too late to do anything about it.
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interesting about USF, they really don't seem to have been able to capitalize on their bowl win or their early preseason top 25 ranking for next year.
Their recruiting class, so far, isn't any better than what they got in Confusa. They have one Juco 4/5 star player, a few 3 stars, and the rest two stars. So they are basically still recruiting a an average/above average non-BCS level.
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