and to take that a step further, in this area, scout seems to do a better job overall, high school or college. If a player isn't considering an SEC school, they are far less likely to have accurate info on rivals than on scout.

TigerBlueHart Wrote:I've been hanging around scout.com. University of Memphis's recruits that have offers totaling 27, of the 27 offers 5 are Jr college players; 2 are defensive players. I know alot of you are expecting a horde of defensive players from the Jr college level for immediate help but unless something drastic occurs. I think Tommy won't be going that route but only time will tell. I can say they are involved with a number of Jr college players this year: 22 of which 13 are defensive players, with that in mind anything is possible.

PS: Aaron Crawford has us on his list with medium interest but no offer from us. His list includes Ark., Ky., LSU, MSU, Notre Dame, UT, and us. He has offers from Kentucky and MSU. Now, you have to take all of this info with a grain of salt because things do change. Therefore, accuracy may or may not be on point.

honestly, I don't think we need a horde of JUCO players - I think we have a lot of good, young talent that was just inexperienced and maybe not to the point physically where we needed them to be yet...realistically, I expect anywhere from 3 to 7 JUCOs to sign, probably somewhere in the middle is the right number...

dscat Wrote:here's what scout shows as having high interest in U or M

SLB 49 Jonathan Massaquoi ***
(Central Gwinnett HS)
Memphis, Ball State, Clemson, Georgia, Indiana, Auburn, Georgia Tech

C 28 Michael Antonescu **
(Ridgeland HS)
Marshall, Memphis, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Southern Miss, Tennessee

WR NR Quovadis Lindsey *
(East Oktibbeha County HS)
Crawford, MS 5-11/185 Alabama, Memphis, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Southern Miss

QB NR Kirk Lance *
(Oak Grove Attendance Center)
Hattiesburg, MS 6-0/175/4.70 Memphis, Southern Miss, Arkansas State, Samford

OG NR Joel McCleod *
(Everglades HS)
Miramar, FL 6-3/295/5.20 Memphis, Pittsburgh, Mississippi, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, South Florida

here are a couple new ones to add to the "high" interest list:

Blake Spiers MLB Copiah-Lincoln JC (Brandon HS) *
6'2"/228; 2005 Combine results 6'2"/205/4.6
High on Memphis/USM
Medium LSU, MissSt, Miss, UT@K
no offers
visit set here for 12/15

Gordon Warner RB #96 Miami Central HS (Fl) **
5'10"/175/4.5
High on Memphis
Med on KY/UT@K/USF/LaLafayette
offers from all but UT@K
only visit confirmed to USF in January

in the Commercial Appeal that the MEMPHIS Coaching staff has not been out to see ROD DAVIS or JEREMY PERRY. This is sad sad sad. DAVIS is the best WR Prospect the city has produced in over a decade. This includes Duke Calhoun and Cedrick Wilson. How do you have someone like this in your own backyard, coached by a former Memphis Tiger, and not even get involved with him??...... His QB at Woodale Jeremy Perry, in my humble opinion, is a better QB prospect than any of the QB's on the current UofM Roster. He is a 6'3" Athlete with a cannon of an arm. And Memphis, hasn't even been out to see him?. Coach West has proven his worth a Coach over the last 3 years. But, He needs to step it up to another level. Can you believe that Kenny Ingram (Former Melrose HC) and current UofM assistant, doesn't even recruit the city of Memphis??.. He is assigned a different territory. That just insn't smart.... Is it?....

Coach "O No...." at Ole Miss is atleast smart enough to put HUGH Freeze (Former Briarcrest HC) anc current Ole Miss assistant in charge of recruiting the Memphis area. It's not rocket science, But Tommy is making it that at Memphis.

looking at some of the local recruits, the only 3star or more players locally on our offer list per rivals are Chris Walker and Cam Baker, WR, Osceola.

Looking at them more closely, I found it interesting who is recruiting these two for other schools.

Walker is also looking at Clemson (medium) and Miami (low), among others. The Clemson coach recruiting Walker is Chris Rumph, most recently OLB coach here from 2003-5. The Miami coach is none other than Tim Walton!

As for Baker, he is showing high interest in Georgia Tech, where he is being recruited by Jeep Hunter.


This got me looking at some other Walton recruits. Rivals doesn't show him with any other targets from this area, and only tag him with two other targets, both from Florida, and two commitments, one from FL and one from Mobile. I was hoping he'd have his hands alot more involved in Miami's recruiting process, so that if he is hired here as DC he could possibly bring some 3/4 star prospects with him. Doesn't look likely.

RobM Wrote:in the Commercial Appeal that the MEMPHIS Coaching staff has not been out to see ROD DAVIS or JEREMY PERRY. This is sad sad sad. DAVIS is the best WR Prospect the city has produced in over a decade. This includes Duke Calhoun and Cedrick Wilson. How do you have someone like this in your own backyard, coached by a former Memphis Tiger, and not even get involved with him??...... His QB at Woodale Jeremy Perry, in my humble opinion, is a better QB prospect than any of the QB's on the current UofM Roster. He is a 6'3" Athlete with a cannon of an arm. And Memphis, hasn't even been out to see him?. Coach West has proven his worth a Coach over the last 3 years. But, He needs to step it up to another level. Can you believe that Kenny Ingram (Former Melrose HC) and current UofM assistant, doesn't even recruit the city of Memphis??.. He is assigned a different territory. That just insn't smart.... Is it?....

Coach "O No...." at Ole Miss is atleast smart enough to put HUGH Freeze (Former Briarcrest HC) anc current Ole Miss assistant in charge of recruiting the Memphis area. It's not rocket science, But Tommy is making it that at Memphis.

where is there a breakdown of the coachs' recruiting areas? What area is Ingram responsible for? Is it possible that the staff made inquiries to Davis and he didn't have any interest, and as such they didn't spend the limited free time on Friday nights going to his games? And Perry shows up as only having interest in two schools, Memphis and Ole Miss, without offers from either. Neither have made an official visit anywhere, which suggests to me that they don't have their qualifying scores or grades yet.

Kenny Ingram said himself in an interview with George and Geoff that he isn't assigned the Memphis area. Hard to believe, I know....... But True. Also, Cedric Miller (Woodale Coach and Former Tiger LB) Stated via the commercial appeal that the UofM staff hasn't even contacted him period in regards to his players... Again...Sad....Sad...Sad....

You are probably right about the grades..... But the staff should still be cultivating the relationship.... so that in 2 years after their time in JC is up that they would maybe show an interest in the Tigers... As it stands now... That's a long way from happening...

Coach Ingram said last evening that he recruits 5 schools in the Memphis area.

I am aware that Jeremy Perry is getting looked at by the University of Memphis.

Regardless.... Kenny Ingram should be recruiting the entire city... It would be nice to see Larry Porter added to the staff next year. He is at LSU and recruits the Memphis area for the Bengal Tigers.

i'm beginning to think that Bonner may end up a Tiger which would be a huge pickup. Arkansas has cooled off on him & it looks like MSU trying to sign a couple of JUCO DB's so they may not have room for Bonner anymore.

RobM Wrote:Kenny Ingram said himself in an interview with George and Geoff that he isn't assigned the Memphis area. Hard to believe, I know....... But True. Also, Cedric Miller (Woodale Coach and Former Tiger LB) Stated via the commercial appeal that the UofM staff hasn't even contacted him period in regards to his players... Again...Sad....Sad...Sad....

You are probably right about the grades..... But the staff should still be cultivating the relationship.... so that in 2 years after their time in JC is up that they would maybe show an interest in the Tigers... As it stands now... That's a long way from happening...

Not sure about the CA article but Coach Miller was interviewed on the radio and specifically said he thought his QB would end up at Memphis. That was early in the season but late enough that people were aware of Wooddales success. He said it would make him proud for his players to play at "his" school.

ChattTiger Wrote:looking at some of the local recruits, the only 3star or more players locally on our offer list per rivals are Chris Walker and Cam Baker, WR, Osceola.

Looking at them more closely, I found it interesting who is recruiting these two for other schools.

Walker is also looking at Clemson (medium) and Miami (low), among others. The Clemson coach recruiting Walker is Chris Rumph, most recently OLB coach here from 2003-5. The Miami coach is none other than Tim Walton!

As for Baker, he is showing high interest in Georgia Tech, where he is being recruited by Jeep Hunter.


This got me looking at some other Walton recruits. Rivals doesn't show him with any other targets from this area, and only tag him with two other targets, both from Florida, and two commitments, one from FL and one from Mobile. I was hoping he'd have his hands alot more involved in Miami's recruiting process, so that if he is hired here as DC he could possibly bring some 3/4 star prospects with him. Doesn't look likely.

Baker wants to go to GT bad. The Tigers are also recruiting another player on Osceola's squad as an all purpose player.

Cam is the man. He and Duke would do wonders for the Tigers offense. His brother plays at Arkansas and can't get off the bench.

should be interesting to say the least - I think this class will end up being really good for the Tigers...TW seems to do best when backed into a corner and facing adversity...

HoopDreams Wrote:should be interesting to say the least - I think this class will end up being really good for the Tigers...TW seems to do best when backed into a corner and facing adversity...

Now that is the type of news I want to read! I so hope you are correct.

rolexjames Wrote:The Tigers are also recruiting another player on Osceola's squad as an all purpose player.

Osceola's running back is very good (athletic). He gets cramps pretty bad, however. If they can keep him soaked, he may be a playmaker (not neccesarily at running back). They also have a lineman that is 6'1" and weighs about 300 lbs. He moves good for a big guy.

lost an OL prospect, 6'4",235# Julius Gray from Pearl River CC to USM.

add another OL prospect to the list though.

6'4", 305, OT Cory Stubblefield, Itawamba JC, scout 3*
visit set for 12/8


also, a new Juco LB prospect

Scout 4* Chris Patterson, Joliet (Il) JC, 6'3", 215
originally from Chicago, signed with Oklahoma out of HS. Went to NE Oklahoma JC freshman year, transferred to Joliet this year. On schedule to graduate JC in December. Also looking at Mississippi among others, with only visit set to Mississippi 12/3

RandyMc Wrote:

rolexjames Wrote:The Tigers are also recruiting another player on Osceola's squad as an all purpose player.

Osceola's running back is very good (athletic). He gets cramps pretty bad, however. If they can keep him soaked, he may be a playmaker (not neccesarily at running back). They also have a lineman that is 6'1" and weighs about 300 lbs. He moves good for a big guy.

He's a great kid too. He said he will play any place Tommy puts him.

ChattTiger Wrote:somewhat disturbing is that in looking at both scout and rivals, we have a total of 2 players scheduled (granted, that they know of) to make visits coming up (Lankster, DB from Jones Co CC, and Jaron Odom, OL from FL) next month, and show only 3 having made visits: Michael Antonescu from Ridgeland (MS), a school where we are recruiting several players; Joche Norona, RB from Miami; and Will Briscoe, OL from Tupelo.

Hopefully we'll see a lot change over the next couple of weeks.

scratch Ellis Lankster off of that list. He committed to MooSU yesterday.

"Tommy needs to bring in some new coaches, namely on the defensive side of the ball that can flat out recruit their a$$e$ off and can close the deal."

You ar so right!! DING DING DING

tigerblu Wrote:"Tommy needs to bring in some new coaches, namely on the defensive side of the ball that can flat out recruit their a$$e$ off and can close the deal."

You ar so right!! DING DING DING

As much as I hate to say it Weinberger was right today. Tommy needs to bring in an assisstant or two with connections in Florida. Recruiting Mississippi, Georgia, Tennessee, and occasionally Arkansas isn't going to cut it, especially if you aren't getting the top athletes out of those states, because those states aren't very deep on talent.

You can go into Florida and find leftovers that are as good or better than some of the better athletes out of Tennessee.

My thoughts on assisstants are that they need to be put together regionally.

For instance, Frank Wilson is our RB coach, not because he has a history of developing RBs, but because he was probably the biggest name in New Orleans high school football and Coach O wanted to get his foot in the door in New Orleans and Louisiana recruiting. So far, Wilson has played a major role in our recruiting and has beaten LSU for quite a few top prospects out of Louisiana that we wouldn't have gotten without him.

Tommy's hire of the coach from Melrose, IMO, was a good move in trying to get a better hold on Memphis area recruiting, but I think he needs to expand the regions Memphis draws from to be more successful. Just an outsider's opinion.