OK! What happens to the "BIG East" actomatic bid? Do they actually have to earn an at large bid? Second question? How do you rank a Virginia Tech playing in whats left of an no so ordinary BIG East?

If Miami, Syracuse and BC all leave at first I heard there would be no automatic bid into the BCS, but now if those 3 teams leave there is talk of having Louisville, Marshall, and Central Florida join if they can get it done.
I still dont see how the Big East will hold together if those teams were to join.
I dont think Pittsburgh or Vtech wants to be a part of the Big East if the 3 schools I mentioned leave and the biggest question that no one seems concerned about is what will happen to UCONN?
They are scheduled to join the Big East in football in 2005 to replace Temple.
UCONN had its first year at the D-1A level last year, upgraded their athletic facilities for football, has a good basketball program, only thing is by 2005 there might not be a Big East

Interresting! If VT opts for the Big 10 does the Big East get dropped from the BCS? Plainly gutting the conference USA doesn't make a BCS conference!



<!--EDIT|socalbyu|May 20 2003, 12:30 PM-->

Im not sure if VTech will go to the BIG T(elev)en, havent heard anythig on that.
Heres what I think will happen if the ACC expands.
Lets take a look at the Big 12 for a minute, I dont know how your history is in NCAA football but remember the Southwest Conference-SWC?
In 1996 Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech all joined the BIG 8 to form which is now known as the BIG 12.
The SWC folded, it is now I think a Div 1 AA conference.
This is what I see happening to the Big East. Not so much because of BC and Syracuse but because of Miami.
Like that saying in boxing "Kill the body and the head will follow".
Well get Miami out of the BE and the others will follow which is BC and Syracuse.
What happens to the Big East then is they will scramble to look for teams to replace what is left, Louisville, UCF, etc. other teams wont be happy with the BE and want out, either to find another conference or go independent.
I now see why Mike Tranghese-BE Commissioner is so damn mad right now, he knows what hes about to lose and dollar for dollar the BE wont match the ACC, and the BCS bowl payout goes right out the window right along with an automatic bid.
Tranghese has alot to lose and hes doing everything to stop the expansion.
Temple leaves in 2005 and UCONN is supposed to replace them, but replace them how? I say Tranghese should take a hard long shot at Notre Dame as saving the BE, but ND loves being independent with their football team.
So as I see it, the ACC gets the expansion, say bye bye Big East



<!--EDIT|NCAAFBFAN|May 21 2003, 10:14 AM-->

NCAAFBFAN Wrote:Im not sure if VTech will go to the BIG T(elev)en, havent heard anythig on that.
Heres what I think will happen if the ACC expands.
Lets take a look at the Big 12 for a minute, I dont know how your history is in NCAA football but remember the Southwest Conference-SWC?
In 1996 Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech all joined the BIG 8 to form which is now known as the BIG 12.
The SWC folded, it is now I think a Div 1 AA conference.
This is what I see happening to the Big East. Not so much because of BC and Syracuse but because of Miami.
Like that saying in boxing "Kill the body and the head will follow".
Well get Miami out of the BE and the others will follow which is BC and Syracuse.
What happens to the Big East then is they will scramble to look for teams to replace what is left, Louisville, UCF, etc. other teams wont be happy with the BE and want out, either to find another conference or go independent.
I now see why Mike Tranghese-BE Commissioner is so damn mad right now, he knows what hes about to lose and dollar for dollar the BE wont match the ACC, and the BCS bowl payout goes right out the window right along with an automatic bid.
Tranghese has alot to lose and hes doing everything to stop the expansion.
Temple leaves in 2005 and UCONN is supposed to replace them, but replace them how? I say Tranghese should take a hard long shot at Notre Dame as saving the BE, but ND loves being independent with their football team.
So as I see it, the ACC gets the expansion, say bye bye Big East

Wow...well said

Just giving an outside prespective on the matter I hope all goes well for the ACC.

The past three years I have advocated that BYU ought to operate as an independent. ESPN and other television networks certainly have no problem putting them on TV and BYU would't be compelled to support the MWC with its TV revenue!

The Naval Academy, Troy ST and Conneticut all operated as Independent 1A schools this past year in addition to Notre Dame ($8 Mil per year.) It would be hard to argue that being Independent has hindered any of these programs.

BYU has a reasonable national reputation as a football school and has done a better job of playing the national football programs the last ten years. While BYU hasn't dominated anyone on a regular basis they are generally competitive while losing. I'm not convinced that BYU and its associates in the MWC can build a dominate conference any easier than the "shattered" Big East. They have as a conference scheduled the better programs around the country. If they do become a tough conference it will be a long tough effort. The question IMO is BYU willing to wait while large finiancal reparations are dispursed on a regular basis in BCS conferences and share the "table scraps" of the MWC. Who knows?



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socalbyu, I dont think its so much the conferences, but more like who controls the BCS, the 'money games'
In 2005 the BCS will have to change its conference bids if the BE folds.
Funniest thing about all of this is the BE commissioner is also the current chairman of the BCS :laugh:
Tranghese is seeing his mountain crumble at a very fast pace.
This past January he told the 5 D-1 A conferences that were not part of the BCS, C-USA, MWC- (BYU), MAC, WAC, and Sun Belt, that they would have to be on the outside looking in and that he would not allow those conferences into the BCS.
Its nothing but a power struggle with him, he wants the conferences that will generate the most money, ACC, Big T(elev)en, Big 12, PAC and SEC.

Referring to non-BCS schools, Tranghese answered;

The thing that troubles me about Tranghese is that he is the chairman of the BCS.
The ACC gets an automatic bid to the BCS.
The ACC is trying to expand be getting three Big East teams into their conference.
Tranghese is also the commissioner of the Big East who is crying the ACC is foul and unfair.
So what can we expect when its time for the ACC to get its bid into a BCS bowl game?
When the time comes rest assured if Tranghese feels so badly about the ACC, you can bet he will do anything he can to screw the ACC champs.
If he can do it to the 5 other D-1A conferences, he will have something up his sleeve for the ACC.
I dont know how all of this is possible since the ACC gets an automatic bid but I wont be suprised at anything this guy does.
Tranghese vs the ACC..."Do unto others as they have done unto you"
or
"What comes around, goes around"
I can just picture this guy in his office mumbling about the ACC
:mad: :devil: