nate jonesacc Wrote:a) Look at the numbers. Shav outscored, rebounded and blocked more shots than both. The only major stat that either had on Shav was assists. AND... the minutes are quite comparable. IIRC, Shav even played less minutes.

b) RETREAT! What you said was that next year the backcourt would be an upgrade because Gilchrist and Jones would be better next year than Blake and Nicholas were last year.

a) look at the size of SHAV's vagin-a....that is all you need to worry about, while JohnnyG and NCM played major minutes down the stretch during crunch time of the season, SHAV sat on the bench nursing his hurt vagin-a, he padded his so called "numbers" against the likes of davidson and North Carolina A&T

b) where am I retreating..I stand by the statement

Terpy Wrote:IMO Jones is just too talently to sit on the bench...at all. I dont know if you caught the Mickey D's All-American game but I was impressed, IMO he looked like one of the top 5 guys in the game...

Jones is extremely talented- from what I saw of the McD's AA game at least. However, I like to think that McCray will surprise us. :D

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:a) Look at the numbers. Shav outscored, rebounded and blocked more shots than both. The only major stat that either had on Shav was assists. AND... the minutes are quite comparable. IIRC, Shav even played less minutes.

b) RETREAT! What you said was that next year the backcourt would be an upgrade because Gilchrist and Jones would be better next year than Blake and Nicholas were last year.

a) look at the size of SHAV's vagin-a....that is all you need to worry about, while JohnnyG and NCM played major minutes down the stretch during crunch time of the season, SHAV sat on the bench nursing his hurt vagin-a, he padded his so called "numbers" against the likes of davidson and North Carolina A&T

b) where am I retreating..I stand by the statement

a) LOL... and I assume you know that it wasn't solely Shav's choice whether to play or not late in the season. There's something called a doctor.

Wow, way to show your ***. NCM's 4 highest point games were against Ga Tech, UMBC, The Citadel and UNC-Wilmington. He was also RIGHT THERE during crunch time, playing 6 minutes in your last game against MSU and going scoreless. NCM averaged 5.9 PPG, 3.5 RPG and .06 BPG for the season. :rolleyes:

Likewise, Gilchrist's best games by points were Florida, The Citadel, and that powerhouse of UNC (that you couldn't even beat in the first round of the ACC tournament, by the way). Gilchrist only averaged 4.6 pts., 2.1 rebs and 1.7 assists FOR THE SEASON... Including that GREAT crunch time play he had, scoring 5 points and having a 1/1 ast/TO ratio in the NCAA tourney.

On the other hand, Shav averaged 7.4 PPG, 4 RPG and a BPG... his best games were Butler, Army, Davidson, Wake Forest and UVA. 2 of those made the tourney... Butler made the sweet 16, Wake was a 2 seed and he put up 17 (more than any of Gilchrist or NCM's best games) on an at the time hot UVA team. Against a sweet 16 team Butler, he went 11-13 from the field, had 24 points and logged 10 rebounds. Tell me he stuffed his stats in bad games. :rolleyes:

b) You really think that next year's backcourt for UMD will be better than last year's????? :eek: What the hell is wrong with you? Blake is the best non-druggie PG in Maryland's history... Nicholas was a candidate for ACC POY and you think a mediocre sophomore and a good freshman will upgrade that? LMFAO!

nate jonesacc Wrote:a) LOL... and I assume you know that it wasn't solely Shav's choice whether to play or not late in the season. There's something called a doctor.

b) He was also RIGHT THERE during crunch time, playing 6 minutes in your last game against MSU and going scoreless.

A) so a doctor said it was O-K for him to go bonkers on the bench though, huh? get over it, your boy is a pansy and K didn't seem to have too much confidence in him at the end of the season...

B) did you watch the MSU game...did you see what NCM did to his ankle (after STARTING) six minutes into the game :rolleyes:


ok..YOUR NUMBERS...

SHAV 7.4 PPG, 4 RPG and a BPG
NCM 5.9 PPG, 3.5 RPG and .06 BPG
JG 4.6 pts., 2.1 rebs and 1.7 assists

How tall is SHAV, 6-9??? and he can only average two more rebounds a game than our mediocre PG??? yargh!

yep...much much better :rolleyes:

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:a) LOL... and I assume you know that it wasn't solely Shav's choice whether to play or not late in the season. There's something called a doctor.

b) He was also RIGHT THERE during crunch time, playing 6 minutes in your last game against MSU and going scoreless.

A) so a doctor said it was O-K for him to go bonkers on the bench though, huh? get over it, your boy is a pansy and K didn't seem to have too much confidence in him at the end of the season...

B) did you watch the MSU game...did you see what NCM did to his ankle (after STARTING) six minutes into the game :rolleyes:


ok..YOUR NUMBERS...

SHAV 7.4 PPG, 4 RPG and a BPG
NCM 5.9 PPG, 3.5 RPG and .06 BPG
JG 4.6 pts., 2.1 rebs and 1.7 assists

How tall is SHAV, 6-9??? and he can only average two more rebounds a game than our mediocre PG??? yargh!

yep...much much better :rolleyes:

a) The doctor told him it wasn't wise to play the rest of the season... jumping up and down on the bench is much different than playing the game you moron...

FOR EXAMPLE... I saw Sean May in Southpoint mall at one point during the spring when he was injured... his friend stole his drink and he ran to get his drink back... he wasn't playing as a precautionary measure, just like Shav. Is Sean May a pansy too?

b) I understand... so NCM gets injured, just like Shav was... but Shav wasn't there for crunch time... and NCM was! I see your logic... :rolleyes:

That PG's strength happens to be rebounding... obviously it isn't passing or he would have averaged more than 1.7 assists. Here's a simple equation for you:

Shav's rebounding - Gilchrist's rebounding > Gilchrist's assists - Shav's assists

Understand?

you are the one who posted the numbers..if you think that SHAV far exceed NCM and JG, then have at it, but I think the numbers don't lie....

and the injury difference...NCM got hurt in that game that you singled out..SHAV was out for how long?

and yes..May is a pansy too, very injury prone...

LOL... BTW... Shav is STILL in rehab... I went to Cameron tonight to watch the pickup (be scared of Deng by the way) and Shav wasn't playing because the doctor STILL won't let him.

You obviously have no understanding of injuries, which surprises me seeing as you were a goalie in HS. He's a freaking freshman with at least 10 more years of basketball left to play. He hadn't gone through proper rehab... as fine as his leg may have felt, if he had played on it, there is a very large chance he would have reinjured it a la Grant Hill. Ever heard the adage "when in doubt, sit out"?

Yeah, Sean May and Shav are pansies... and you are a real man. :laugh:

Nate is such a tool... :laugh:

Mike Jones is a better baller right now than anyone on Dukes team is...or ever will be.

He and NCM are gonna make plenty of posters out of Deng and Shav next year. :laugh:

Oh yeah and I cant wait to see Gilchrest punk Duhon twice next year.

nate jonesacc Wrote:You obviously have no understanding of injuries, which surprises me seeing as you were a goalie in HS. He's a freaking freshman with at least 10 more years of basketball left to play. He hadn't gone through proper rehab... as fine as his leg may have felt, if he had played on it, there is a very large chance he would have reinjured it a la Grant Hill. Ever heard the adage "when in doubt, sit out"?

dude...stop making excuses for your boy...he is a pansy, and it will be proven again this coming season...

and don't tell me I have no understanding of injuries, you have no idea the understanding that I have, why must you always resort to that kind of flame?

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight! :frown:

which one is mommy? nate or dt?

Terpy Wrote:Nate is such a tool... :laugh:

Mike Jones is a better baller right now than anyone on Dukes team is...or ever will be.

He and NCM are gonna make plenty of posters out of Deng and Shav next year. :laugh:

Oh yeah and I cant wait to see Gilchrest punk Duhon twice next year.

Duke has 3 guys who can all play Jones' position who are better than Michael Jones... easily.

Deng, Ewing and Redick... Deng is the CONSENSUS #2 player in the class and some believe that the difference between LeBron and Deng is not as great as you think.

The only person Gilchrist ever HAS punked or WILL punk is Steve Blake.

NCM is awesome... for Deng to dunk all over.

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:You obviously have no understanding of injuries, which surprises me seeing as you were a goalie in HS. He's a freaking freshman with at least 10 more years of basketball left to play. He hadn't gone through proper rehab... as fine as his leg may have felt, if he had played on it, there is a very large chance he would have reinjured it a la Grant Hill. Ever heard the adage "when in doubt, sit out"?

dude...stop making excuses for your boy...he is a pansy, and it will be proven again this coming season...

and don't tell me I have no understanding of injuries, you have no idea the understanding that I have, why must you always resort to that kind of flame?

Again... would it be wise to go against STANDARD MEDICAL PROCEDURE (not playing during rehab) and going against A MEDICAL DOCTOR'S WORD?

What a freaking moron you are...

BTW... if I can't have understanding of you... HOW THE HELL CAN YOU UNDERSTAND SHAV'S INJURY? :rolleyes:

I heard you got off your crutches today.
Actually I got off my crutches yesterday after 6 weeks so it was a great day for me.

Is it safe to say you were not 100% this past season?
Yes, ever since the end of my junior year of high school I have been dealing with the same problem. I had just learned to play with it. It had been hurting me but I just sucked it up and played. Luckily, there are some great doctors here a Duke and they figured out what was wrong with me. It was a matter of them just going in to do a short little operation and hopefully everything will be alright.


Who do you think it is being interviewed? He is STILL injured. :rolleyes:

nate jonesacc Wrote:The only person Gilchrist ever HAS punked or WILL punk is Steve Blake.

:rolleyes: We all know that the real reason that JWilly left early is because he was tired of being ***** slapped by Blake every year....So lets do a little equation here

In your post you imply that Gilchrest > Blake

and as stated earlier

Blake > JWilly

and finally everyone knows that

JWilly > Duhon

therefore we can conclude that

Gilchrest > Duhon

and if you follow our equation properly

Gilchrest > JWilly as well

And as far as Mike Jones is concerned, from what I remember only Lebron and Charlie Vilenueva and maybe Shannon Brown were more impressive than Jones in the All-American game. Deng was too much of a ***** to play in the game. JJ is probably a better shooter than Jones but Jones is a much better athelete and can get to the rim, something that JJ cant do at all. Ewing is a good player but please :rolleyes: his main claim to fame is being TJ Fords teammate in highschool, as far as talent is concerned he is no where close to Jones.

I didn't imply that... talking about Gilchrist and Blake's OUTSTANDING friendship they had.

And if only the transitive property worked in real life... :rolleyes: If it did... it would be possible to prove that Alcorn St. > Maryland every year for the past 30 years.

Yeah... Michael Jones is better than JJ... even though in the McDonald's game... JJ dropped 26 and got MVP honors the year before in a BETTER CLASS.

Ewing's claim to fame is being TJ Ford's teammate? You really are an idiot. Ewing was ranked higher CONSISTENTLY than TJ Ford... scored more PPG and had more RPG in high school... now Ewing is an ALL-ACCer and you think some good freshman will come in and be better than Ewing. :laugh: And Deng was too much of a pansy? You and Damascus must be the bonal structure of Shav and Deng... seeing as you know everything about them and their injuries. :rolleyes:

If you still think Ewing is better than TJ a final four and a couple of POY awards later you are just sad.

Mike Jones is gonna make many a posters out of JJ. JJ is a great shooter but he is the shooting guard equivalent of a stiff. He cant play man defense, he is slow, and as Drew Nicholas proved if you chase him around the court and keep a hand in his face he cant score. What is JJ going to do when Mike Jones jumps right over him and throws down with his balls all over JJ's rat lookin face?

SSJT Wrote:which one is mommy? nate or dt?

:laugh: good question...

nate, read the title of this thread, we 're discussing the Maryland starting five, not the Dookie five-year old getting started. :laugh: