No, gmaniac1, I'm NOT missing the point. Beating up on a bad Tennessee team just isn't enough. But I, too, would still be proud of it. A team must not only beat good OOC teams, they also have to do it year in and year out. Plus they have to dominate their conference.

I bet you'll find that once Maryland starts scheduling some heavy duty OOCs plus beats almost everyone else in the conference, then you'll see the respect of the rest of the nation! :D

I agree with you 100% Ms Nole, but I just dont understand why NC State and Virginia are getting more respect than Maryland right now, their OOC schedules werent any tougher than ours was last season but they are getting a lot more pre season hype than we are. And just keep in mind as Gmaniac said that Fridge hasnt had the opportunity to put together his own schedule yet...

Terpy Wrote:I agree with you 100% Ms Nole, but I just dont understand why NC State and Virginia are getting more respect than Maryland right now, their OOC schedules werent any tougher than ours was last season but they are getting a lot more pre season hype than we are. And just keep in mind as Gmaniac said that Fridge hasnt had the opportunity to put together his own schedule yet...

I understand about the football schedule. Those things are done years in advance and are hard to change once it's set.

Well, I did read that in Lindy's ACC Football magazine that Maryland is ranked #10 and FSU is #18. And that they expect Maryland to beat FSU. But that might be a little harder considering the fact that y'all play in Florida this year. But one never really knows, till after the game. :D

MsNole Wrote:No, gmaniac1, I'm NOT missing the point. Beating up on a bad Tennessee team just isn't enough. But I, too, would still be proud of it. A team must not only beat good OOC teams, they also have to do it year in and year out. Plus they have to dominate their conference.

I bet you'll find that once Maryland starts scheduling some heavy duty OOCs plus beats almost everyone else in the conference, then you'll see the respect of the rest of the nation! :D

I guess we'll agree to disagree because that Tennessee team wasn't considered all that bad until Maryland kicked their butt, putting the final nail in their seasonal coffin. But according to your logic, now they're patsies too. I'm sorry you can't have it both ways!

So, I guess when Tennesee beat FSU for the national championship, because FSU was hurt, out of sorts, etc., that Tennessee wasn't so deserving. :D

gmaniac1 Wrote:I guess we'll agree to disagree because that Tennessee team wasn't considered all that bad until Maryland kicked their butt, putting the final nail in their seasonal coffin. But according to your logic, now they're patsies too. I'm sorry you can't have it both ways!

So, I guess when Tennesee beat FSU for the national championship, because FSU was hurt, out of sorts, etc., that Tennessee wasn't so deserving. :D

No gmaniac1 I'm never said they were pasties, I said they were bad last year... just like FSU was BAD last year and you couldn't beat us at your place. We beat Virginia and you didn't, therefore giving FSU the Conference Title. Now do you want to continue to arguing with a person who has been watching college football longer than you have even been alive??? :eek:

Tennessee was bad last season long before the Maryland game.
I still rememebr the Vols talking before the Canes came to town, you see how that game went.
Now with SEC teams, if they get beat by an ACC or Big East team then you better believe there will be a 1001 excuses.
SEC has this mentality that they are far superior than anyone else in football, so if they win thats how its supposed to be, but if they lose then the planets werent aligned right with the moon and the sun :rolleyes:

Tennesse was in the top 5 at one point last season...don't forget...

Quote:Now do you want to continue to arguing with a person who has been watching college football longer than you have even been alive???

you would never tell from the way you present yourself...

DT, you are absolutely correct, the Vols were ranked 5th in the country, FWIW if im not mistaking the Noles were 4th in the country at one point.
2 very high ranked teams to start out the season, yet one finishes at the bottom of the top 25, the other didnt make it into the top 25.
When Maryland and Tennessee played it was the Terps who were ranked while the Vols werent even thought about, still Maryland got no respect due to the FACT..its an ACC team playing and BEATING an SEC team.
Also didnt Maryland end up ranked near the top 10 in the final polls? Im not saying top 10 but they were damn sure close, VOLS dropped out of sight, they werent even in the "other teams receiving votes" category.
One more ACC team Wake Forest, beat Oregon who at one point in the season was ranked as high as 6th, yet they were no where to be found in the top 25 at seasons end

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:you would never tell from the way you present yourself...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

MsNole Wrote:

gmaniac1 Wrote:I guess we'll agree to disagree because that Tennessee team wasn't considered all that bad until Maryland kicked their butt, putting the final nail in their seasonal coffin.  But according to your logic, now they're patsies too.  I'm sorry you can't have it both ways!

So, I guess when Tennesee beat FSU for the national championship, because FSU was hurt, out of sorts, etc., that Tennessee wasn't so deserving. :D

No gmaniac1 I'm never said they were pasties, I said they were bad last year... just like FSU was BAD last year and you couldn't beat us at your place. We beat Virginia and you didn't, therefore giving FSU the Conference Title. Now do you want to continue to arguing with a person who has been watching college football longer than you have even been alive??? :eek:

Length of time doing something does not mean perfecting it. Like I said before, we'll just agree to disagree. By the way, not that I'm old BUT, you must be geriatric to make a comment like that. My mom wouldn't even say that to me and she is 29 years older than I!

Oh, and one more thing, than I guess you are old enough to remember Maryland's football championship in the 50s. Don't give me that crap of ancient history. I'll take Maryland's new found success as reigniting tradition that was already there. When was FSU's first championship again? Maryland was doing it before FSU was on the map and still struggling to keep up with the likes of Tallahassee JUCO and FAMU.

NCAAFBFAN Wrote:DT, you are absolutely correct, the Vols were ranked 5th in the country, FWIW if im not mistaking the Noles were 4th in the country at one point.
2 very high ranked teams to start out the season, yet one finishes at the bottom of the top 25, the other didnt make it into the top 25.
When Maryland and Tennessee played it was the Terps who were ranked while the Vols werent even thought about, still Maryland got no respect due to the FACT..its an ACC team playing and BEATING an SEC team.
Also didnt Maryland end up ranked near the top 10 in the final polls? Im not saying top 10 but they were damn sure close, VOLS dropped out of sight, they werent even in the "other teams receiving votes" category.
One more ACC team Wake Forest, beat Oregon who at one point in the season was ranked as high as 6th, yet they were no where to be found in the top 25 at seasons end

Good point, Wake got robbed! What an awesome coaching job Grobe did. Wake may be a rival but they are Maryland of the South, no respect and damn worthy of it!

NCAAFBFAN Wrote:Tennessee was bad last season long before the Maryland game.
I still rememebr the Vols talking before the Canes came to town, you see how that game went.
Now with SEC teams, if they get beat by an ACC or Big East team then you better believe there will be a 1001 excuses.
SEC has this mentality that they are far superior than anyone else in football, so if they win thats how its supposed to be, but if they lose then the planets werent aligned right with the moon and the sun :rolleyes:

I know Tenn was not up to speed but, they were talented enough to give any good team a shalacking (sp) in the right circumstances, this to include Maryland.

Amen on the SEC thing. At least the ACC (basketball), minus Duke, doesn't make sorry arse excuses for losses. They just walk away and live to fight another day. However, the SEC is looking sharp in BB.

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:Tennesse was in the top 5 at one point last season...don't forget...

Quote:Now do you want to continue to arguing with a person who has been watching college football longer than you have even been alive???

you would never tell from the way you present yourself...

From the famous words of the show Hee Haw... Sow-lute!

I agree with the need for UMD to beat FSU...for
just a "confidence thing."

But the rise to being a "Big Dog" is much more than
that.

Doing it for one or two years doesn't earn you
respect.

For 21 years the winner of the Ohio St-Mich game
won the big 10...that made both of those schools
"BigDogs"

Miami has 5 National titles and played for five other
National titles in 20 years...that makes them a
Big Dog.

Florida State won 10 or more games for 14 straight
years...was undefeated in 15 staright bowl games...
was ranked in the top 5 for 14 staright years...that
made them a Big Dog.

You have to do it year in and year out to earn the
same respect those teams have...You have to show
the country that you're not just a flash in the pan.

I disagree with the OOC scheduling. When you are
scheduling top notch Div 1 programs..the schedule is
set way in advance. But not for these AA's.
How many years in advance was the Wofford game
booked. Or this year's tussle with the Citadel.

OOC's are changed all the time...Auburn backed
down from playing Florida State only 6 months before
kickoff. They of course opted for Appy State...FSU
went and found...La Tech. At least they were Div 1...

No the Fridge has had a part in the scheduling of
some of these OOC patsies. I don't blame him.
Y'all were lucky to win the spring game and he needed
games he could win...to build any sort of confidence...
but now he must upgrade.

If you want to be the best...you have to play the best.

In 1981 Florida State...played 5 straight road games...
At Ohio State
At Nebraska
At Notre Dame
At Pitt
At LSU
(All were top 20 teams...'Noles won three of those).

Respect is earned...

and one more thing...If you want to be a Football
Power...accept your lumps...don't go spouting off
about basketbasll...grades...behavior...

There is never any respect given to excuses...never
any respect given to whining...All you do is give your
detractors the ultimate reason...to not give you any
respect.

You're wasting your time, Paul. Terpy seems to be the only Maryland fan with any common sense on these boards... :rolleyes:

MsNole Wrote:You're wasting your time, Paul. Terpy seems to be the only Maryland fan with any common sense on these boards... :rolleyes:

What? I have common sense. I just don't usually argue about football because basketball is numero uno in my book. However, this comment has probably made you doubt my claim to common sense since you seem to put football as the all-powerful sport.

Jenibu Wrote:

MsNole Wrote:You're wasting your time, Paul.  Terpy seems to be the only Maryland fan with any common sense on these boards...  :rolleyes:

What? I have common sense. I just don't usually argue about football because basketball is numero uno in my book. However, this comment has probably made you doubt my claim to common sense since you seem to put football as the all-powerful sport.

Sorry Jenibu - but I really wasn't referring to you. Only certain other people who had responded to this thread. I never have been much of a basketball fan. Yeah, I absolutely love football, probably as much as you love basketball. :D

[quote="MsNole"] [quote="Jenibu"] [quote="MsNole"] You're wasting your time, Paul.

football is the all-supreme sport.

Terpy Wrote:football is the all-supreme sport.

In the world of power and money...the adage is:

"It is the engine that pulls the train...not the caboose!"