Which they aren't going to do, not after "improving" the team's record to 7-7 and giving him the long term contract. He's Mullins' boy and is smart enough to know that if he talks with a drawl fans will accept him and nobody either is smart enough or gutsy enough to call him out on the textbook lines he gives out to the media.

But let's just say you did get rid of him.

Why does anyone believe you could bring in a better coach? You know all David Mullins wants is a puppet.

If Mullins wanted a coach, he would have gone after Jimmy Pastos when he expressed interest in the job.

Point is- Bartow's not your man to get rid of- at least not now. He may be the second coming of John Wooden or the second coming of Jim Satalin.

There are always going to be strategic moves you won't like from even your favorite coach- Bill Cowher was very lucky those fourth down conversions worked for him today- for instance.

But let's just say Bartow was a better strategist. Let's just say he drilled it into Tim Smith's head that the Bucs needed a three against Cincy- they took one- drained it- then won in overtime.

You really think ETSU would be any better than they are right now?

I happen to think he's a good coach, and firing him would be a truly bizarre act, probably scaring off any qualified coaching candidate. I think he has been and continues to be one of the better coaches in the mid majors. Is this year indicative of his work over time? I don't think so, although there is a lot of basketball yet to be played.

If he chose to leave? I think we should open up the search nationally and find the best person we can with the best experience. I say even though I think very highly of Scott Wagers as a head coaching candidate and think he would be a solid candidate in the mix.

(02-07-2012 08:16 AM)buc-wild Wrote:  I happen to think he's a good coach, and firing him would be a truly bizarre act, probably scaring off any qualified coaching candidate.

Unless that "qualified coaching candidate" believes the new president means business and the athletic program is heading in a different direction.

Some of their queries would be

"how did they treat the guy who last held the job?"
What do they expect of me, and when?
Are their facilities favorable?
Is men's basketball the signature sport?"
"Is the athletic department stable?"
"What is the full compensation package?"

Remember when you're looking for a good coach you are not buying...you are selling.

etsu basketball would have to hit rock bottom, to the tune of 5-25 for a couple seasons, for etsu to fire bartow. he has to leave on his own accord.

(02-07-2012 08:48 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  etsu basketball would have to hit rock bottom, to the tune of 5-25 for a couple seasons, for etsu to fire bartow. he has to leave on his own accord.

Which you believe he may do, correct?

(02-07-2012 08:16 AM)buc-wild Wrote:  I happen to think he's a good coach, and firing him would be a truly bizarre act, probably scaring off any qualified coaching candidate. I think he has been and continues to be one of the better coaches in the mid majors. Is this year indicative of his work over time? I don't think so, although there is a lot of basketball yet to be played.

If he chose to leave? I think we should open up the search nationally and find the best person we can with the best experience. I say even though I think very highly of Scott Wagers as a head coaching candidate and think he would be a solid candidate in the mix.

I read this twice so far and laughed harder this time then last.
One of the better mid major coaches?

(02-07-2012 09:06 AM)abuc90 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 08:48 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  etsu basketball would have to hit rock bottom, to the tune of 5-25 for a couple seasons, for etsu to fire bartow. he has to leave on his own accord.

Which you believe he may do, correct?

i believe that murray has options if he chooses to entertain them. i have heard the chatter and think there is a possibility he moves on...

that being said...i dont believe it is a strong possibility.

(02-07-2012 09:07 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 08:16 AM)buc-wild Wrote:  I happen to think he's a good coach, and firing him would be a truly bizarre act, probably scaring off any qualified coaching candidate. I think he has been and continues to be one of the better coaches in the mid majors. Is this year indicative of his work over time? I don't think so, although there is a lot of basketball yet to be played.

If he chose to leave? I think we should open up the search nationally and find the best person we can with the best experience. I say even though I think very highly of Scott Wagers as a head coaching candidate and think he would be a solid candidate in the mix.

I read this twice so far and laughed harder this time then last.
One of the better mid major coaches?

murray is a good mid-major coach. alot of schools would kill for the success etsu has had during his time here. etsu fans expect more than most mid major programs...esp those with quality football programs.

Strange my idea of a good coach is, I don't know someone who knows how to coach. Designs an offense, runs plays, has a clue.

(02-07-2012 09:27 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Strange my idea of coach is, I don't know someone who coachs. Designs an offense, runs plays has a clue.

i dont understand this gibberish above rod...

who is a good coach rod? b cremins, b mckillop, buzz peterson? are these guys good mid major coaches?

(02-07-2012 09:52 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:27 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Strange my idea of coach is, I don't know someone who coachs. Designs an offense, runs plays has a clue.

i dont understand this gibberish above rod...

who is a good coach rod? b cremins, b mckillop, buzz peterson? are these guys good mid major coaches?

Well we don't run an offense or,, oh never mind it is just slappy, he wouldn't understand anyway, not worth the time and effort to type it out.

(02-07-2012 09:57 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:52 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:27 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Strange my idea of coach is, I don't know someone who coachs. Designs an offense, runs plays has a clue.

i dont understand this gibberish above rod...

who is a good coach rod? b cremins, b mckillop, buzz peterson? are these guys good mid major coaches?

Well we don't run an offense or,, oh never mind it is just slappy, he wouldn't understand anyway, not worth the time and effort to type it out.

i understand completely rod...i can simplify this again if you need me to.

what would you say...good coach or bad coach?

1) 462 -145, 18 post seasons in 19 years...

2) 34 - 14, 3 post seasons, 1 championship, 1 runner up in 3 seasons...

3) 28 - 21, 16-16 in conf., no top 5 finishes...

4) 75 - 18, 41-15, 1 nat championship and 4 top 5's in 7 years...

Mindless stupidity.

If MuBar were actually a good coach he would have been plucked from ETSU long ago. Schools can see the illusion that has been created and want no part of it. The team and program has eroded over time, why the hell would any AD worth his salt sign on to bring in the guy who is partly responsible for that? (I don't blame MuBar for everything btw)

MuBar is an average coach who fell a$$ backwards into Eddy D's talent, dropped down to the abyss of basketball, then rode the Courtney Pigram train until it ran out of gas. Without having a guy who he can simply toss the ball over to with 8 seconds left on the shot clock and watch him pull a rabbit out of the hat, the train has stopped.

MuBar couldn't coach his way out of paper bag, I've seen HS teams that are better coached.

(02-07-2012 11:27 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  what would you say...good coach or bad coach?

1) 462 -145, 18 post seasons in 19 years...

2) 34 - 14, 3 post seasons, 1 championship, 1 runner up in 3 seasons...

3) 28 - 21, 16-16 in conf., no top 5 finishes...

4) 75 - 18, 41-15, 1 nat championship and 4 top 5's in 7 years...

If the Bucs dropped down to NAIA, what do you think our record would be?

(02-07-2012 12:59 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 11:27 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  what would you say...good coach or bad coach?

1) 462 -145, 18 post seasons in 19 years...

2) 34 - 14, 3 post seasons, 1 championship, 1 runner up in 3 seasons...

3) 28 - 21, 16-16 in conf., no top 5 finishes...

4) 75 - 18, 41-15, 1 nat championship and 4 top 5's in 7 years...

If the Bucs dropped down to NAIA, what do you think our record would be?

where did etsu drop down to?

(02-07-2012 01:34 PM)slappywhite Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 12:59 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 11:27 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  what would you say...good coach or bad coach?

1) 462 -145, 18 post seasons in 19 years...

2) 34 - 14, 3 post seasons, 1 championship, 1 runner up in 3 seasons...

3) 28 - 21, 16-16 in conf., no top 5 finishes...

4) 75 - 18, 41-15, 1 nat championship and 4 top 5's in 7 years...

If the Bucs dropped down to NAIA, what do you think our record would be?

where did etsu drop down to?

Not how this works...... answer the question.

it is how it works. what basketball abyss did etsu drop down into?

5-25 sounds about right for next year.