[quote="HuskiemobileMan"][quote="LakelandRocket"][quote="sarasotahuskie"][quote="owen"][quote="utpotts"][quote="Photodan"][quote="rocketfootball"][quote="utpotts"][quote="Photodan"][quote="rocketfootball"][quote="HuskieDan"] [quote="rocketfootball"] [quote="calvin12"] [quote="rocketfootball"] [quote="calvin12"] [quote="rocketfootball"] [quote="calvin12"] [quote="rocketfootball"] [quote="calvin12"] thats all well and good except that the reasoning given for taking toledo on monday was so that they could market teh game as long as possible, but since there was no opponent they couldn't market it until today.

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calvin12 Wrote:thats all well and good except that the reasoning given for taking toledo on monday was so that they could market teh game as long as possible, but since there was no opponent they couldn't market it until today.  There was no reason at all for them to make any choice on monday.  it could have waited until wednesday.

The GMAC Bowl needed to get at least one school on board right away. If they could have got both schools on board at the same time they got Toledo they would have done that too, but at least getting the MAC school (which has a longer drive/flight to get to the game) on board as soon as possible is better than waiting another 4 or 5 days without either school on board.

The main problem here is that the GMAC Bowl is played on December 21st. Push the game back to December 28th and they could wait the extra few days as it gives people more time for travel plans.


It is no coincidence that the GMAC Bowl has picked the MAC team in their bowl game before the MACC Game in each year since the MAC began it's participation in the bowl game in 2001.

Monday ->Thursday, 3 day difference, not 4-5 and they still didnt have an opponent.
I also understand that they take a team prior to the MACC but they have always taken a team that was *in* the MACC. If they were that seperate for a team they should have taken NIU. Then in NIU won, they have the champ and the MCB get toledo again, the GMAC does not care who get the MCB. if NIU loses they have the runner up, and the MCB get akron.

Technically you are wrong.....they took BG last year and they were not in the MACC Game. BG was the first MAC school invited to a bowl game and I seem to remember that the only fans complaining about it were NIU fans. Why shouldn't I be surprised by that?

yes techincally I had that wrong, but it was already assured that the teams in the MACC were going to bowl games. mis-statment on my part.

Technically it wasn't assured that both teams in the MACC Game were going bowling. The MAC had 6 bowl eligible teams and after gaining the SVC and Independence that made 4 bowl tie-ins with none of them saying that both schools in the MACC Game had to be picked.

Of course both Miami and Toledo were more desireable than Akron was last year so they were picked for bowl games, but there was no guarantee for the loser of the MACC game at the time that the GMAC picked Bowling Green.

there was only 1 eligable team who wasnt going last year, and it wouldn't have been a division winner of the MAC. Had we gotten a bowl and you did too we would be rooting for you, problem is you were given what has traditionally bee a MAC division champs bowl, which you are not.

But the points is that at the time the GMAC picked BG it was very possible for more than 1 bowl eligible team to be left out. In fact, it looked like there would be a handful. And there were 3 bowl eligible teams left out. Clemson and South Carolina took themselves out of consideration, but they were eligible. And they didn't take themselves out of consideration before the GMAC selected BG.

Wrong.

<a href='http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6550475/' target='_blank'>Nov 22, 2004 - Clemson & USC announce they are staying home</a>

<a href='http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2004/11/22/daily18.html' target='_blank'>Nov 22, 2004 - MAC announces agreement with Silicon Valley Football Classic</a>

<a href='http://www.breakingwindows.com/new/2004/11/falcons_going_t.php' target='_blank'>Nov 30, 2004 - BG accepts GMAC Bowl bid</a>

<a href='http://www.independencebowl.org/December%201.html' target='_blank'>Dec 1, 2004 - Indy Bowl announces pairing with MAC</a>

NIU officials read the writing on the wall after 11/22, that the two MACC participants would get bowl bids given that the SVFC had come on board, and that the GMAC Bowl really liked BG. Our A.D. got on a plane and sold Glen Krupica - an NIU grad and current associate AD at NIU - on the MAC filling a slot @ the Independence Bowl.

In other words, it was obvious to NIU that we were going to get left out, so our AD went and got the MAC a fourth bid. It happened to be the best paying bid the MAC has ever had by half a million dollars. We didn't get that bid because the Indy Bowl made it clear that they wouldn't take NIU if Iowa State was pushed up to the Indy Bowl by Texas getting a BCS at-large bid, which of course occurred.

Wow, a NIU fan actually has something to back facts up. I stand corrected for when the bid was given out.


Outside of HD's post here, there has not been any facts or rationale to back up what the rest of the NIU whining fans have said though.

NIU fans lived it, RF. Don't assume that they don't know what they're talking about because they're too lazy to point out the facts with actual links. And don't try to bull**** us on it, either.