Part of my calculation is that the right offer won't come along. That's why I say until 04 or 05 or until a MAC title. If he wins a MAC title, the right offer might come at that point.

He's not going to jump at any job. It will have to be right. I don't know what right means for him. Maybe Michigan State would have been right. It sounds like they didn't offer.

I don't think anyones been offered the MSU job, though I have heard Marvin Lewis is interested.

Young Herdman Wrote:I bet Franchoine said the same thing about leaving.

He did.

Fran lied.

rocketfootball Wrote:I only know 2 coaches in the MAC that probably would not go if the right offer came along. They are Toledo's Tom Amstutz and Marshall Bobby Pruett.

Is Pruett's Steak House doing that well?

Seriously, though, he almost left for Houston a couple of years ago. I wonder if he would consider an offer from Florida after Zook gets fired (since he worked there under Spurrier and all).

Although Bobby's name tends to pop up every time there is a vacancy, there are several reasons why he isn't going anywhere. First, Marshall alums ponied up the money for a $1 million annuity that vests in 2007 but ONLY if he stays in Huntington. Since then, they have ponied up more money so it vests in 2005. Second, our current AD has publicly stated that he intends to raise enough additional money to "take Bobby out of the market." Third, I don't think at this stage in his career he really wants to undertake a "rebuilding" job. Fourth, and most importantly, Elsie (Bobby's wife) is from this area and has also stated that she has no intentions of moving again.

BTW, as I said Urban was a duster, I'll take my crow marinated in a little teryaki (sp?) sauce and grilled with some roasted corn.



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MAKO Wrote:Although Bobby's name tends to pop up every time there is a vacancy, there are several reasons why he isn't going anywhere. First, Marshall alums ponied up the money for a $1 million annuity that vests in 2007 but ONLY if he stays in Huntington. Since then, they have ponied up more money so it vests in 2005. Second, our current AD has publicly stated that he intends to raise enough additional money to "take Bobby out of the market." Third, I don't think at this stage in his career he really wants to undertake a "rebuilding" job. Fourth, and most importantly, Elsie (Bobby's wife) is from this area and has also stated that she has no intentions of moving again.

BTW, as I said Urban was a duster, I'll take my crow marinated in a little teryaki (sp?) sauce and grilled with some roasted corn.

Florida would hardly be a "rebuilding job."

MAKO, you know that if Florida really wanted Pruett, they could come up with far more money than Marshall.

Of course, I actually think Zook will do better at Florida and won't get fired anytime soon.

I don't see Bobby going anywhere unless it's someplace like Florida.

Didn't the University of Houston Head Coach just get canned?

He was the runner up when Bobby backed out of the deal he had with them and Marshall Reynolds offered him a steak house.

I'd check the flight lists from Mobile to Houston, if I were you. Course, he'd have to fill the UH stadium, and he can't even fill the Marshall stadium with nothing else to do in the city--imagine him trying to fill a stadium where most people are out looking for jobs or the rock that Enron hid all its money under

Oh no, another crystal ball.

Of course you can talk about Marshall not filling their stadium, but they did lead the conference (Again) in attendence.

:snore:

I love the way fans in this confernece quibble about attendance numbers that would get them laughed out of every major football conference in the country.
"We have 28,000 fans--you only have 26,000!"

Our "attendance leader" is 76th out of 117 D-IA schools.

Wow....that says alot for this conference...and all the non "attendance leaders."

It says a lot about Marshall and the idiots that thump their chests continually, as well.

The biggest thing currently working against Coach Pruett is his age. 57 (is that right, it's at least close) doesn't exactly lend itself to long-term building of a program. $$$ would not matter to a BCS conference school in the least. Any of them could buy MUg (or any other MAC school) out in a minute if they truly want a coach.

How about UM to UCLA? Should we get that rumor going?

Oddball Wrote:No matter what he says, there is no way in hell that he's staying just for BG's benefit.

I don't think that anyone has ever stated this as his reason. Inspite of any pep rally sounding posters, no one thinks he has fallen in love with BG that much and any coach could be gone with the right job.

However, this is a far cry from the "he's gone" attitude of so many professional sports consultants on this board.

Cork is right.

I'm sure Meyer likes Bowling Green to an extent, or he wouldn't have taken the job. He probably likes it quite a bit. He certainly says it does, and it isn't hard to imagine Bowling Green reminding him some of his home town.

Still, it should just as obvious that if Meyer has his pick of any college football job, he wouldn't pick Bowling Green. There is no obvious reason for him to do that.

The heart of the dispute is this:

People who figured Meyer would leave right away assume well-heeled schools would come calling this year AND that Meyer would leap at the first such opportunity.

It is possible such schools have not come calling yet. Still, when or if they do come calling, I still expect Meyer to be somewhat selective.

For an example of that, look at our basketball coach. West Virginia was prepared to make him a fairly wealthy man. Ultimately, he decided it wasn't the place for him, despite the money.

It isn't hard to imagine Meyer going through the same process.

Take Baylor. Even if Baylor had contacted him this year with a lucrative offer, it is easy to imagine Meyer coming up with a list of reasons not to go there, including:

1. Baylor's third-fiddle status in Texas, despite its Big 12 membership.
2. The fact that Baylor is in Texas. Good lord, Texas?

I think Meyer really wants to stay in Bowling Green until he wins a MAC title. Another goal may be to get this football facility built. I suspect he's stumping for that with the full support of our AD, who may informally consider such stumping part of Meyer's job description.

Noballs,
I was referring to the post where your alter ego stated Marshall couldn't fill their own stadium. Maybe not....but we did lead the conference in attendance. Not meant as a slam....just a fact.

It's morons like you that give me plenty of reason to beat my chest.

DogTracks Wrote:Novak had turned down head coaching opportunities (probably right here in the MAC) before he came back to DeKalb. He's 57 years old. At various times he's referred to NIU as his Notre Dame. Basically, this is his destination job. You look at his career and it tells you something about what he's about. His slow and steady way of building NIU up, his 11 years as DC at Indiana under Mallory, the years as Mallory's DC at NIU.

Novak's not about ambition and getting the biggest and best job. (as opposed to, say, Urban Meyer who will make a move, though maybe not just yet). It looks like Joe's about doing the best job where he is for the sake of doing the best job, not moving up the ladder. Novak's an old school guy, it seems, not just when it comes to football, but in terms of life.

He isn't going anywhere. Even though places like MSU and Alabama would be better off with someone like him. And that feels pretty good.

Urban Meyer is old school as well...the difference is Novak is 57 and established...Meyer is 38 and no doubt will leave one day for his dream job. Meyer is building BG into his team...I don' think he is as concerned about moving up the ladder as so many here think.

Meyer will be in Bowling Green at least thru the 2004 season. If he wins the MAC in 2003, possibly then....and only then.

RF,
There you go bringing sense into the discussion. Listen, if you do that once, people will expect you to do it all the time!

I think you have framed the situation accurately. I don't think he will jump at any BCS job--I'm sure he has some ideas about where he'd like to go. I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that the Big Ten is a place he would seriously consider at any time. MSU has the resources to make it a go, I would think. I would also think he would be reluctant to jump to school like Indiana where FB is always going to be backseat to B-ball.

He is smart enough I think to pick his spots. He may well not get an offer he wants this year after the disappointing finish. He can afford to be patient--though he will need to find a way to get past Marshall, UT, and NIU consistently if he stays on, plus rack up some better OOC wins. That's the catch to not jumping when you can--the record can take a downturn. That's why Stan Heath headed to ARK this year. That's why the big Div. I offers won't be coming to Dakich after this year. It's a gamble to stay and a gamble to go.

You don't want to go to a place where succeeding is next to impossible and you are just the next scapegoat for an athletic dept.'s lack of commitment.

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:Noballs,
I was referring to the post where your alter ego stated Marshall couldn't fill their own stadium. Maybe not....but we did lead the conference in attendance. Not meant as a slam....just a fact.

It's morons like you that give me plenty of reason to beat my chest.

So, that's what this means, *******?

Quote:and all the non "attendance leaders."

RochesterFalcon Wrote:Meyer won't *consider* leaving until either (1) December, 2005 or (2) he wins a MAC championship.

That's my view.

Is that your final answer?