AkronObsessed Wrote:You want stats?

Charlie Frye vs. #3 Iowa (2002, a MUCH better Iowa team)


FIRST HALF STATS: 21-29 230 yds. 2 TDs, 0 INTs






Ben Roethlisberger vs. Iowa 2003

GAME STATS: 27-42 250 yds. 0 TD, 4 INTs



How bout those stats? Yup, Krispy Kreme all right. He had better first half stats then Ben did whole game stats, against a MUCH MUCH MUCH better Iowa team than this years.

Gosh, by all mean, let's compare one half of your guy's results from a game last season, versus a whole game against a team from a year later. Especially when we have stats for the same two subjects from the same year....

Ben Roethlisberger vs Iowa, 2002: 33-51-1-343 (29-24 loss)
Charlie Frye vs Iowa, 2002: 21-29-0-230 (57-21 loss)

Yeah, Charlie had a great half before he got knocked out of the game. Of course, by the time Charlie got on the board, Iowa had 37 points and were playing their backups. So unfortunately, not only will we never know how much damage Charlie could do against Iowa's second- and third-stringers in a game where Akron was never in it, we'll never know how he would have done facing Iowa's full defensive intensity.

No, Ben's passing percentage wasn't quite as hot for an entire game as Frye's were for a half game, but Ben kept his team in the game and had a chance to beat the team that completely dominated Akron a week earlier. And that, I think, is where Ben is a better QB. He keeps his teams in games and gives them a chance to win.

At any rate, if I were a Zippy fan, I would be concerned about Frye's ability to take a hit. He's been taken out of at least two games because of injuries -- that 2002 Iowa game, and this year's Miami game. NFL guys don't care to take chances on injury-prone QBs....

As for the Krispy Kreme comment, that was meant, in its entirety, about this year's schedule. That has nothing to do with Akron's losses last year. You have played three ABYSMAL teams this season, two good teams, and a schizophrenic Kent team. There is a reason why Sagarin has rated your schedule #136 at this point in the season. How is that anything more than a gooey, sugary pastry?

Kudos to you guys for your attendance this year. The attendance boost should serve you well for the I-AA playoffs in 2005. :)

I used to think the saddest day in Akron history was the day Gerry Faust was hired. I was wrong. It was actually the day Akron Obsessed first logged on to the MACbbs. You are to Zip fans what Corky was to "Life Goes On." Do you put a big red nose on when you post? Floppy, oversized shoes? Your Frye-over-R-berger argument above redefines ignorant. It is embarassing.

R-berger 3 Akron 0

That's the only stat that counts.

I'm not with stupid.[B][I]

I stick up for my team and I'm not GUTLESS. I'm not a bandwagon hopper. Don't gimmie that crap..... over at the other Zips board everyone talks about how they'd rather have Frye, etc etc.

Frye is TOUGH he's never had an injury he plays through concussions - just ask Wisconson coach Barry Alvarez if he's tough or not. Ask the Miami defense if they ever thought he'd get up after a couple of those hits. I don't know where you get injury prone. Last I heard this summer Miami fans around where I live to worried because Ben had a sprained wrist - my oh my.

[quote="AkronObsessed"]I stick up for my team and I'm not GUTLESS.

Charlie's first game as a Freshmen was at Ohio State, which the Zips lost 28-14 but if you saw/ went to the game the Zips had a chance to win. They blew that opportunity as well though

Captain Kangaroo Wrote:I used to think the saddest day in Akron history was the day Gerry Faust was hired. I was wrong. It was actually the day Akron Obsessed first logged on to the MACbbs. You are to Zip fans what Corky was to "Life Goes On." Do you put a big red nose on when you post? Floppy, oversized shoes? Your Frye-over-R-berger argument above redefines ignorant. It is embarassing.

R-berger 3 Akron 0

That's the only stat that counts.

I'm not with stupid.[B][I]

Now that's funny!!