I would like to go back to the lame excuse that the reason UCF almost lost to Buffalo was due to the fact that they were breaking in a new QB?

In the past 4 years, Toledo has broken in 3 new QB's.... hmmmmmm Gee, we still manage to blow out buffalo...

Well put, Falcon Freak. Frankly, this continuing "theme" on MAC attendance is getting tiresome. Yes, we all wish we had bigger fan bases, yes, we know we'd have more bowl bids if we did, but reality is that MAC schools do grow up in the shadow of the B10 (and ND), and that's the way it is. They have bigger budgets, and kids grow up in the midwest seeing those games on TV, hence the MAC does not develop large fan bases among the general population.

I know 'cause I grew up in Cincy (guess that's a given, eh?), and knew little about Miami football even though I only lived a little over an hour away. My Dad was a Michigan fan (my family was from Mich and my Dad's brother was an Engineering School grad of UM), and I actually like UC basketball.

I began rooting for Miami in HS after I attended their summer basketball camp, and in fact thought of Miami as more of a hoops school than a football school until I attended.

So, what's my point? Our schools have a certain (finite) fan base.......when we win, we do better, but overall it appears that most MAC schools will not have average attendance much over the low to mid-20's. (maybe Marshall/UT can get into the upper 20's most years). It doesn't mean that our athletic departments won't try to do better, but it gets real old hearing how crappy our crowds are........personally, I think NIU has done a fabulous job supporting the Huskies this year, and have come "light years" from a decade ago. And, better yet, the MAC is the best overall that it's ever been, with a half dozen excellent teams this year. The poorer performing MAC teams will have to improve or face expulsion from the ranks of IA, so there's not much there to debate.

So, talk about the attendance all you want, but to me it's usually a "smoke screen" from certain fans unhappy with other things, like their respective teams losing that week, etc.

1. A winning team produces more fans... If you are playing Buffalo and can't run up the score... dont expect to energize your fans... when you play teams like buffalo at home, that is the time you give the fans a treat and score, score, score... fans actually love those touchdown blow out games against teams like buffalo... when the game is close... it just makes ya sick to your stomach to be a fan!!!

2. Night games for MAC teams is a bonus... back when I was at Toledo, the saturday afternoon games... the stadium was empty... we sucked and most people were home watching Big 10 football...

3. Our conf. is getting better and more attention.. I suspect if we continue like we are... those numbers WILL go up as they have been in the past 8 years for Toledo.. for example...

4. Kight fans who hate the MAC are just jealous because, they are finding themselves a bottom feeder of what used to be a weak conf. they would rather be the worst team in the SEC... somehow that would be much more fitting for them...

[quote="Goldenbuc"] [quote="exCincy Kid"] Goldenbuc, you have fallen into the "Herd mind-set" trap that demands rurally or small town located MAC teams like NIU, Miami, and OU (name your favorite) can generate 30K every night or their fan support sucks.

It's always a bit absurd to hear teams who draw 28k to Div1A football games lording it over those who draw 20k. There is only one stadium in the conference with the capacity to draw BCS-esque numbers. The rest is chicken feed.
And I say this as a fan of a team who draws real chicken feed.
Besides, this year's attendance doesn't count anyway. Next year we are going to count anyone who comes to the games with a "K" on their sweatshirts as 1k. Should raise our attendance by 10-15K per game!

The annoying thing about hte attendance wars is that UCF doesn't do a good job of counting. We always undercount because of the retards who work for the Citrus Bowl. While everybody else counts non existent fans. Well not everybody but you know who you are.

knight_01 Wrote:The annoying thing about hte attendance wars is that UCF doesn't do a good job of counting. We always undercount because of the retards who work for the Citrus Bowl. While everybody else counts non existent fans. Well not everybody but you know who you are.

"we are... MARSHAL!"

Knight in Shining Armor Wrote:We win 19-10 against the worst football team in the MAC and all of college football. Where does that put UCF? Right near the bottom.
The score at the half was UCF 12 and Buffalo 10. If we did not run a punt back for a TD we only win by 2 points.


    Ohio is going to kick the living $hit out of us next week. Man is it going to be ugly. I can't wait to see Ohio kick our asses all over the field next week. 7 days until our next embarrassment. How low can UCF football sink this year. We are damn lucky that we beat Buffalo. It should be a close game against EMU. I am guessing they will probably beat us.


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I have to put in my .02 on this one.

I would like to agree with this post but I am not going to hang my head and bow down to the other MACsters on this one. I know that our team is struggling but I refuse to give up! The bottom line is that our team is not that good this year but the above post is pathetic.

Then you have Goldenbuc who makes the rest of us sound like a bunch of idiots.

I really enjoy being in the MAC. The problem this year is that we really are not that great. In past years we have FEASTED on the Bulls. We are 5-0 against them and most games haven't been NEARLY as close as this one.

11/7/92 UCF 63 Buffalo 21
11/13/93 UCF 42 Buffalo 7
11/19/94 UCF 48 Buffalo 0
11/9/02 UCF 45 Buffalo 21
10/4/03 UCF 19 Buffalo 10

I REFUSE to give up on my Knights. I'm sure that every MAC fan on this board does not want to give up on their team. I KNOW the team won't give up!

There are 7 games left.....GO GET 'EM KNIGHTS!

I think I've seen Goldenbuc before in other guises--I'm almost positive that he's a USF fan who's creating flame wars in here and spreading dissention.

Go back to your lame-o city by the bay before we make you put on creamsicle uniforms again.

ni

KnightwhosaysNi Wrote:I think I've seen Goldenbuc before in other guises--I'm almost positive that he's a USF fan who's creating flame wars in here and spreading dissention.

Go back to your lame-o city by the bay before we make you put on creamsicle uniforms again.

ni

LMAO, that was way too funny NI :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

KnightwhosaysNi Wrote:I think I've seen Goldenbuc before in other guises--I'm almost positive that he's a USF fan who's creating flame wars in here and spreading dissention.

Go back to your lame-o city by the bay before we make you put on creamsicle uniforms again.

ni

Hey, hey, hey!!! You forgot your signature line!!!

Flying Corn Wrote:

KnightwhosaysNi Wrote:I think I've seen Goldenbuc before in other guises--I'm almost positive that he's a USF fan who's creating flame wars in here and spreading dissention.

Go back to your lame-o city by the bay before we make you put on creamsicle uniforms again.

ni

Hey, hey, hey!!! You forgot your signature line!!!

Flying Corn, what do you mean?

Ni forgot to include this......

aaah....and what a fine signature line it is!!

These Northerners are starting to catch on to what is going on in Orlando. We'll send them a UCF drool bib. BTW, at the parent's knight deal, these sorority girls ZTA I think started getting off a bus in front of me, I thought I was at a model search or something yikes.

Hey GoldenHomo


STOP SNIFFING THE KNIGHTS STANKY COD STRAPS...it's embarrassingly obvious you have NO F-ING clue what you speak of , well that's cool cause it's America where alcohol induced flamers like you can waste mental energy on wishing (once-upon-a-time) that a complete loser like you could ACTUALLY PLAY D1A football...so shut your F-ING turd-hole or Word-hole or whatever you Orlando trailer park types call it...Central Florida HAS sucked,DOES suck and WILL continue to SUCK...I know that stings you stupid B!tch but so be it....

Nasty, as bad as Goldenbuc is, you just won the award for most ignorant, stupid, outlandish, dumb, not well thought out, classless post of the year. Whatever fan you are, gain an IQ then come back and contribute something meaningful to the conversation. BTW UCF went 6-2 in the MAC last year, and this year we're 1-1. Thats not really sucking....

Are you kidding me????


If I was speaking to a knowlegeable fan ( re "GoldenBuc") then I would respond accordingly....If you want to stand up for this douch-bag than so be it, I on the other hand having played D1A football at the higest level will continue to view sh!t-stains for what they are :rofl:

I think Gold would hate any conference UCF was in..because whether you get beat by Kent in the MAC, Vandy in the SEC, or Army in C-USA its all the same.(no disrespect to the Golden Flashes)

Last time I checked 12 out of 14 teams in the MAC are averaging over 13,000 fans. If we all lived in a state where it is generally nice year around everyones numbers would be averaging 20k+. If you aren't a die hard football fan, when the end of October into November rolls around, the numbers decrease. Soooooo until you have sat through a game in the Teens-20s on a regular basis, then it is best to keep quiet about how the attendance sucks in the MAC. I wouldn't want to have my team in Florida or any other warm state because that isn't what football is all about. It is about playing in the snow. sleet and rain and being able to see your breath due the 20 degree weather.

Uh guys......why are you dissing each other....go look at Flying Corns pic and chill........... :D