wow, dudu with more of his inside information.

If I were you I would worry about who is going to be your QB next year, because its not going to be Ben.

In regards to the Herd next year, we will win the East play the MACC in Title Town And win on a last second play. The haters on this board will lose there minds, go crazy and crash this board while spewing how unfair it is.

Marshall will go to a Bowl, win it and as the Jefferson theme song says" we will be moving on up".
Next year can't get here soon enough. I have changed my mind, Please let us stay in this $hit hole conference one more year, call it our" cheaters do prosper tour."

[quote="THE NC Herd Fan"] [quote="DevilGrad"] [quote="THE NC Herd Fan"] Amen Knight Time,

Bob Marcum's reply.

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1. I only speak facts there tin plate heads... sometime the truth hurts..

2. When Marshall came into the leauge, Chryst set it up so that Marshall would win... the divisions were set up giving cross over games were only worth 1/2 a conf. game..

3. UCF will not win the East next year... and Marshall has been sinking...

4. the MAC east next year will be between Ball St or Miami U :wave:

5. The west belongs to Toledo... especially if Joe N. stays in the MAC :rofl:

I am not a big fan of our AD, but he did make a valid point. And, that point is reflected by many Univ. of Fla at Orlando fans. They have said that they would like to leave the MAC sooner rather than later, and are hoping that Cusa can make it happen. This makes sense for both parties and you should compliment our AD for, in effect, saying that he would vote for letting you aceive your desires.

As for xmembers representing us in a bowl -- If your wife files for divoice on December 1, and it becomes final on January 15th, I doubt that you would take her to the New Year's Ball even tho you are technically still married. Suck it up, divoices just work that way. Accept the situation as it is, and your hope is that there will be better days ahead in your new relationship. :crying:

KingBob Wrote:4. the MAC east next year will be between Ball St or Miami U :wave:

Is Ball U moving to the East ?

KingBob Wrote:2. When Marshall came into the leauge, Chryst set it up so that Marshall would win... the divisions were set up giving cross over games were only worth 1/2 a conf. game.

KB - Have to disagree somewhat

If it was set-up that way, it was unintentional.

No one in the MAC, and you can include many of the Marshall faithful (perhaps even most), expected the Herd to come into the MAC and begin competing for Championships its first year. There's a perception about going D1-AA to D1-A. D-1A have more scholarships, bigger budgets, etc. No D1-AA team had come into D1-A and been THAT competitive, and Marshall certainly wasn't expected to be THAT competitive.

True Marshall wasn't your typical D1-AA team, but, again, I don't believe MAC officials thought Marshall was going to be a "playa" right out of the chute.

He doesn't want Marshal representing the MAC ?
If I were the MAC I wouldn't want KSU and some others
representing me , they get the tar beat out of them on a
weekly basis ...

Kent is representative of the MAC. Marshall is not.

<a href='http://www.ncaa.org/news/2002/20020107/div1/3901n33.html' target='_blank'>This is why.</a>

Yea, because they are losers

GFlash68 Wrote:As for xmembers representing us in a bowl -- If your wife files for divoice on December 1, and it becomes final on January 15th, I doubt that you would take her to the New Year's Ball even tho you are technically still married. Suck it up, divoices just work that way. Accept the situation as it is, and your hope is that there will be better days ahead in your new relationship. :crying:

Well, fortunately, I don't have first hand experience with the divorce procedure, but I imagine the courts could determine who gets what and when.

The analogy about taking your EX to the ball isn't completely accurate here.

This is a more appropo scenario IMO.... you prohibit your "EX" from attending the country club ball, and he/she has commited funds (the exit fee) to go there - significant funds at that, and, in addition, you will still be collecting monies from the "ex" to make the ball financially feasible (purchase bowl game tickets). I suppose the judge may have a hand in determining if you can force the "EX" to stay home or, if the ex does stay home, then his/her outlay of funding would be reimbursed or reduced. Of course, the judge wouldn't have a say if the pre-nup or the country club agreements clearly call out you can make your "ex" stay home and he/she still has to pay.

Then we're forgetting one other thing - does the MAC determine which teams go to the bowls or do the bowls make that determination? Could be a moot point if it's the former. However, I imagine it's a consensus between the bowls and the conference with the conference having more say in the issue.

Again, I just hope this thing is CLEARLY spelled-out (one way or another) in the conference guidelines. If it's not, one can certainly imagine there would be MUCH discussion about what "membership" is or isn't along with what is appropriate and reasonable for departing members to expect.

I do not doubt that legal issues will determine the outcome. Our AD did not say anything counter to this. He just said that he would like to accommodate the 2 teams in their early exit. The desire for early exit is mutual. That being said, he opined that he did not prefer that the xmember to be, represent our conference at our party. Nothing wrong with that opinion, even if legal issues intervene. I assume that the 2 xmembers do not think that they can exit early and still play for our championship and bowls. This is a divoice with a waiting period. I have been there, unfortunately---no, I'm sorry, FORTUNATELY, when both parties want it to happen faster than logistics allow.

I still say to the xmembers, suck it up, look to the future, but in the mean time, do not expect too much from this end. You are no longer a proud member of our fraternity.

I wasn't commenting on what your AD said. I was commenting on what YOU said. You're the one that brought up the divorce scenario ... not Kent's AD.

GFlash68 Wrote:I still say to the xmembers, suck it up, look to the future, but in the mean time, do not expect too much from this end.&nbsp; You are no longer a proud member of our fraternity.

Ditto! :thumbdown:

Oddball Wrote:I disagee with him about the games affecting the standings, however, no way should either school be allowed to represent the conference.

You can't have it both ways OddBall

There's no "both ways" about it. It would inconvenience the conference to not allow the games to affect the standings. It only inconveniences Marshall and UCF if they somehow qualify for post-season play and aren't allowed to represent the conference they are leaving. Marshall fan's feelings are not even a consideration.

Oddball Wrote:There's no "both ways" about it. It would inconvenience the conference to not allow the games to affect the standings. It only inconveniences Marshall and UCF if they somehow qualify for post-season play and aren't allowed to represent the conference they are leaving. Marshall fan's feelings are not even a consideration.

Either the games count and we are elgiable for the MACC Game

Or the MAC games are basiclly like schrim. games and don't count against the record

Like I said you can't have it both ways.......

If they're in the conference, Marshall and UCF should compete for the same titles as the rest of the league. While it would indeed suck to have a team that is leaving represent the conference in a championship game, it would be worse to have a team that didn't earn it on the field doing so. This conference does not need the spectacle of a paper champion.

I hope the Herd is around in 2004. They are due to play up here at the Doyt. I would love to get one last crack at them. I could not care less what happens with UCF. For all their bluster and noise, they have been a non-factor in the conference and figure to be anon-factor again next year

Ball State Competing for a title? This I've GOT to see. You can't blame Kent State for trying though. They need to have somekind of an excuse to why they lose to Marshall/UCF next year. "Oh, but the game didn't count."

And you guys call Marshall cheaters?

Flipper, I do belive UCF was 6-2 in our first year of play, and we lost to the east and west champs by a combined 8 points. I'm so sick of hearing that we did nothing....we've been in this conference 2 years....our first year we were a TD away from playing for the MACC, and this year we sucked. BIG DEAL. Please, spare me the "UCF didn't do anything" in the MAC crap, because thats all it is....CRAP.