Someone posted earlier that Frazier's contract ends after June 2027. If true, and no secret extensions occured, would the best thing for NIU be to let him extend Harley one more season so the new AD can pick their own head coach?

Frazier is terrible at negotiating contracts. He keeps putting clauses in them that says if he is no longer AD then the head coach receives an automatic one-year extension and automatic extensions for beating 6-6 bowl teams.

So he hires the next head coach on a five-year contract. That head coach gets an automatic year extension when Frazier is finally shown the door. So you're looking at the next head coach for a minimum of six years but probably 7 years because who can't beat at least one bowl team in six years when you only need to go 5-7 to be bowl eligible? Unless we finally get an AD who doesn't accept poor results and fires poor performers early.

No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

i also would not like to extend a coach that is on a path to an 0-12 season

If his contract expires June 27', he's gone if no secret contract has been signed. The question is, have they hired a recruiting firm for the new AD search? I would assume they have done so. That position historically takes some time to fill. Hire the new AD and make a position fo SF to serve as an Assistant to the President or something. The timing here is all messed up with SF and the new HC.

(10-18-2026 01:02 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  If his contract expires June 27', he's gone if no secret contract has been signed. The question is, have they hired a recruiting firm for the new AD search? I would assume they have done so. That position historically takes some time to fill. Hire the new AD and make a position fo SF to serve as an Assistant to the President or something. The timing here is all messed up with SF and the new HC.

The timing is definitely way off. You have a new university president, AD, and football head coach all within one year of each other.

I do like your idea that they have the new AD figured out and that person gets to pick the next head coach but I don't see NIU BoT and Freeman being smart enough to have the new AD lined up in less than six weeks from now.

There is a lot of issues but I know for sure - removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC by anyone would be beyond idiotic! Harley was the DC and he's stated he's calling the D. So, this D that is at best a mid level FCS D is Harley's D. You don't even need to know much about football to know that removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC is beyond idiotic! IMO. no matter what else is debated, this alone makes it clear to anyone that Harley cannot be made the HC.

(10-18-2026 01:34 PM)NILAW Wrote:  There is a lot of issues but I know for sure - removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC by anyone would be beyond idiotic! Harley was the DC and he's stated he's calling the D. So, this D that is at best a mid level FCS D is Harley's D. You don't even need to know much about football to know that removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC is beyond idiotic! IMO. no matter what else is debated, this alone makes it clear to anyone that Harley cannot be made the HC.

You're risking letting our 13-year AD potentially saddle us 14 straight years of mediocre and poor football if you let him pick the next football head coach. Frazier has rarely gotten his head coaching hires correct.

(10-18-2026 12:10 PM)7 Wrote:  No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

Im sure the next AD would pay your air fare also, plus the next AD might actually construct a winning program

If NIU gives the bum Frazier a new contract, I will speechless. By far far far and away, the worst AD in the country and the only reason NIU is on the verge of becoming FCS in football.

Harley is a crack in the sidewalk, Frazier is a 2 foot deep pothole in the road

NIU is 166 in the Sagarin ratings, there are 136 or so teams in FBS, teams ranked ahead of NIU include:

- Harvard
- Northern Arizona
- Delaware
- Lehigh
- Idaho State
- Incarnate Word
- Southern Utah
- Monmouth
- UC Davis
- Cornell


These above are FOOTBALL Programs ahead of NIU. Yeah sounds like a good time to give the bum a new contract

(10-18-2026 01:54 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 01:34 PM)NILAW Wrote:  There is a lot of issues but I know for sure - removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC by anyone would be beyond idiotic! Harley was the DC and he's stated he's calling the D. So, this D that is at best a mid level FCS D is Harley's D. You don't even need to know much about football to know that removing the interim tag and making Harley the HC is beyond idiotic! IMO. no matter what else is debated, this alone makes it clear to anyone that Harley cannot be made the HC.

You're risking letting our 13-year AD potentially saddle us 14 straight years of mediocre and poor football if you let him pick the next football head coach. Frazier has rarely gotten his head coaching hires correct.

I don'[ have an answer. I just know that Harley cannot be the HC no matter who is making the decision.

Frazier probably hit a home run with Coach Mack, I think he would figure it out this time. lol Also, the board of trustees has to sign off on the hire and contract.

(10-18-2026 02:26 PM)mustangfootball2004 Wrote:  Frazier probably hit a home run with Coach Mack, I think he would figure it out this time. lol Also, the board of trustees has to sign off on the hire and contract.

If Frazier is renewed, is there anything he could do short of criminal conduct to be let go, How can someone be worst in country at what they do, and still be allowed to continue.

(10-18-2026 12:10 PM)7 Wrote:  No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

Okay you STF croney

(10-18-2026 02:31 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 02:26 PM)mustangfootball2004 Wrote:  Frazier probably hit a home run with Coach Mack, I think he would figure it out this time. lol Also, the board of trustees has to sign off on the hire and contract.

If Frazier is renewed, is there anything he could do short of criminal conduct to be let go, How can someone be worst in country at what they do, and still be allowed to continue.

His current deal ends June 30, 2027. As of mid-October 2026, that leaves roughly eight and a half months. Looking at his previous extensions:

The 2021 deal (through June 2026) was announced in September 2021.
The 2024 deal (through June 2027) was announced in August 2024, when he still had almost three years left.

He has typically been extended with multiple years remaining, not when the contract was down to under a year.

Since, currently there is nothing viable to discuss remotely positive regarding thr state of NIU football. Perhaps, it might be an ideal time for those who championed thr horrific Carey tenure, to step right up, and state how wrong they wore. Might be cathartic. Night bringing old stuff off, rather a reflection on misguided expectations. There is nothing else to discuss any who..come on out, and say what was I watching, and thinking at the time.

(10-18-2026 05:30 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 12:10 PM)7 Wrote:  No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

Okay you STF croney

He really is lol, he files on Frazier's jet, literally. No credibility

(10-18-2026 06:59 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 05:30 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 12:10 PM)7 Wrote:  No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

Okay you STF croney

He really is lol, he files on Frazier's jet, literally. No credibility

Lol, I was kidding. No way Frazier has a jet. That man's is flying Allegiant outta Rockford at most.

Also I'm on Carey's payroll.

Actually, I am Rod Carey.

(10-18-2026 07:15 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 06:59 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 05:30 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 12:10 PM)7 Wrote:  No, that would not be the best move and there is a 0% chance it happens.

Hope that helps

Okay you STF croney

He really is lol, he files on Frazier's jet, literally. No credibility

Lol, I was kidding. No way Frazier has a jet. That man's is flying Allegiant outta Rockford at most.

Also I'm on Carey's payroll.

Actually, I am Rod Carey.

They paid to travel him out there and provide favorable coverage for employees of the athletic department on social media, thats fine if you try to defend someone because you are getting personal favors, but one should disclose that and not act like your opinion is coming from a place where the health of the athletic department is the number one concern. Just very shady