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RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-22-2026 05:12 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 02:49 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If Jacurri Brown is making $276k, then he has been a very big waste of resources.

Jacurri is a long way from being the Owl's biggest problem.

Rice needs to consider dropping football in this NIL era. That’s a crazy waste of resources for a bad G6 football team.
10-23-2026 10:45 AM
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RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-23-2026 10:45 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 05:12 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 02:49 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If Jacurri Brown is making $276k, then he has been a very big waste of resources.

Jacurri is a long way from being the Owl's biggest problem.

Rice needs to consider dropping football in this NIL era. That’s a crazy waste of resources for a bad G6 football team.

Very much agree. Watching a bottom 10 team year after year is no fun, and now that it costs EVEN more...
10-23-2026 12:32 PM
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RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-23-2026 12:32 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 10:45 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 05:12 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 02:49 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If Jacurri Brown is making $276k, then he has been a very big waste of resources.

Jacurri is a long way from being the Owl's biggest problem.

Rice needs to consider dropping football in this NIL era. That’s a crazy waste of resources for a bad G6 football team.

Very much agree. Watching a bottom 10 team year after year is no fun, and now that it costs EVEN more...

It unfortunately appears that Abell's offense does not benefit from having extraordinarily talented players or physical specimens.

I said a while ago that if we added Jeremiah Smith to our team, it would change very little, and that that's a scary thought. Now, unless he played QB (which he probably would for this team), I feel pretty much the same way. Abell's system doesn't make use of talent, which defeats the purpose of serious NIL spending on offense.

Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with. Unfortunately, that buffoon Tommy Mac left us high and dry, so this isn't realistic without an actual AD at the helm.
10-23-2026 02:31 PM
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Post: #204
RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-23-2026 10:45 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 05:12 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 02:49 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If Jacurri Brown is making $276k, then he has been a very big waste of resources.

Jacurri is a long way from being the Owl's biggest problem.

Rice needs to consider dropping football in this NIL era. That’s a crazy waste of resources for a bad G6 football team.

It would be a waste of resources for a GOOD football team.
10-23-2026 02:43 PM
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(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with.

Your plan seems to begin and end with firing Abell.

Then what?
10-23-2026 02:46 PM
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(10-23-2026 02:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with.

Your plan seems to begin and end with firing Abell.

Then what?

I would consider running a more traditional triple option. I would first want Abell to consider making this transition himself, but because he "invented" the gun choice offense I don't expect him to be willing to fire his son at OC.

Maybe his son could be hired away back to Davidson?
10-23-2026 04:01 PM
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(10-23-2026 04:01 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with.

Your plan seems to begin and end with firing Abell.

Then what?

I would consider running a more traditional triple option. I would first want Abell to consider making this transition himself, but because he "invented" the gun choice offense I don't expect him to be willing to fire his son at OC.

Maybe his son could be hired away back to Davidson?

Thanks for your response.

True, some of our best recent years were under the Hatfield triple option, which I think is what you mean by more traditional.

yet I remember the Rice fans running Hatfield off because his offense was boring and predictable.

Still, where will we have to go to get a coach experienced in the more traditional Triple option? Got any names?
10-23-2026 05:00 PM
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Post: #208
RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-23-2026 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 04:01 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with.

Your plan seems to begin and end with firing Abell.

Then what?

I would consider running a more traditional triple option. I would first want Abell to consider making this transition himself, but because he "invented" the gun choice offense I don't expect him to be willing to fire his son at OC.

Maybe his son could be hired away back to Davidson?

Thanks for your response.

True, some of our best recent years were under the Hatfield triple option, which I think is what you mean by more traditional.

yet I remember the Rice fans running Hatfield off because his offense was boring and predictable.

Still, where will we have to go to get a coach experienced in the more traditional Triple option? Got any names?

I think Hatfield’s issue with Owl fans, at least those that supported him initially when the option was clicking, was related to his teams not playing defense.

Why he was runoff by Rice, not the fans, was for other reasons.
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Post: #209
RE: Owls vs Tulsa
(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 12:32 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 10:45 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 05:12 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2026 02:49 PM)Ourland Wrote:  If Jacurri Brown is making $276k, then he has been a very big waste of resources.

Jacurri is a long way from being the Owl's biggest problem.

Rice needs to consider dropping football in this NIL era. That’s a crazy waste of resources for a bad G6 football team.

Very much agree. Watching a bottom 10 team year after year is no fun, and now that it costs EVEN more...

It unfortunately appears that Abell's offense does not benefit from having extraordinarily talented players or physical specimens.

I said a while ago that if we added Jeremiah Smith to our team, it would change very little, and that that's a scary thought. Now, unless he played QB (which he probably would for this team), I feel pretty much the same way. Abell's system doesn't make use of talent, which defeats the purpose of serious NIL spending on offense.

Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with. Unfortunately, that buffoon Tommy Mac left us high and dry, so this isn't realistic without an actual AD at the helm.

It wouldn't be realistic even if an AD were at the helm. Abell isn't going anywhere. It's his second season.
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Post: #210
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(10-23-2026 05:17 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 04:01 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:46 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-23-2026 02:31 PM)OwlWKIF Wrote:  Not sure where we should go from here, but if we end up 1-11 or 2-10 I would just fire Abell and get it over with.

Your plan seems to begin and end with firing Abell.

Then what?

I would consider running a more traditional triple option. I would first want Abell to consider making this transition himself, but because he "invented" the gun choice offense I don't expect him to be willing to fire his son at OC.

Maybe his son could be hired away back to Davidson?

Thanks for your response.

True, some of our best recent years were under the Hatfield triple option, which I think is what you mean by more traditional.

yet I remember the Rice fans running Hatfield off because his offense was boring and predictable.

Still, where will we have to go to get a coach experienced in the more traditional Triple option? Got any names?

I think Hatfield’s issue with Owl fans, at least those that supported him initially when the option was clicking, was related to his teams not playing defense.

Why he was runoff by Rice, not the fans, was for other reasons.

I just remember a lot of complaining from the fans about the "boring" and "predictable" offense.

For my part, I was never bored by 40 yard runs, and as for predictable, I remember Chad Nelson telling the defense exactly where the play was going, and then gaining 8 yards.

But per WKIF's suggestion, I would be OK with that, but I wonder where we would get a coach if none of the academy coaches wanted to leave. Is anybody else running a traditional triple option?

I don't care if we run the Dip and Doodle offense, as long as we win with it.
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