With the announcement of a framework deal to end the war in Iran, the conventional wisdom taking hold is that the United States and Israel lost.

From this perspective, the tactical and operational successes that the U.S. and Israeli militaries achieved masked a deeper strategic defeat, with neither securing the political objectives cited to justify the war in the first place. The Iranian regime survived and emerged more hard-line, and it discovered a new, powerful negotiating chip in closing the Strait of Hormuz. The United States once again became embroiled in a costly Middle East conflict that damaged its credibility with partners, weakened deterrence with adversaries, and reduced readiness in the Indo-Pacific. Meanwhile, Israel’s efforts to advance normalization with Saudi Arabia and other Arab Gulf states appear to have been further set back, and Israel has failed to eliminate the Iranian threat.
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/16/ira...fire-deal/

way to go slugger! Keep trying! We are all proud of you, bless your heart

Great OP ED based on an agreement that NOBODY has actually seen yet outside of a few US / Iran officials.

lol Another leftist opinion piece. Not news.

Try again, please.

(06-16-2026 01:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  lol Another leftist opinion piece. Not news.

Try again, please.

This is useful. I know that website is useless to read. Just complete TDS drivel.

Closing the Strait of Hormuz is not some new revelation as revealed by that sh!t opinion piece.

The article (or at least what I could read) is crap. But the point under headline has some merit---"Months of fighting revealed that multiple countries can impose costs, but none can impose order." While pointing out the obvious point---it fails to recognize the full lesson. Obviously, the "American Rules Based Order" is far more difficult to maintain than it is to disrupt. Thats hardly news. Engineers like to refer to the second law of thermodynamics regarding the tendency of any organized system to become less organized- by saying--"entropy is always increasing". Basically, its just a way of saying the natural tendency is for any organized system to trend toward becoming less organized. The American Rules Based Order is not immune from that rule.

That said, the idea that America is finished because America cannot keep every corner of the world completely organized misses the real lesson the conflict teaches when it comes to how much leverage the most powerful military in the world gives the US. The real lesson should actually be a scary thought to a world that failed to join forces with the US to enforce world order when they were asked to help. I would ask----"What happens when the worlds most powerful military decides that enforcing "order" is no longer in its best interests and instead begins to use the most powerful military in the world's ability to create disorder as its primary lever to get accomplish diplomatic goals?