(03-02-2026 09:13 AM)b2b Wrote:  I haven't kept up with this really. It's all the same old shitshows as usual in the Mid East to me.

So far, this time looks different.

Quote:Should we expect to get into the nation building business after this?

No.

(03-02-2026 09:21 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:13 AM)b2b Wrote:  I haven't kept up with this really. It's all the same old shitshows as usual in the Mid East to me.

So far, this time looks different.

Should we expect to get into the nation building business after this?

No.
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Isn't that what got us here in the first place? Propping up a Puppet who replaced his Dad because his father cheered on the Nazis extermination of Jews.

(03-02-2026 08:58 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 08:56 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 08:31 AM)mlb Wrote:  They had on one of the top northern Kentucky Republicans on WLW in Cincinnati last week and asked him about Massey. The guy said it will be the closest race Massey has had, but he still thinks Massey will win the primary and being reelected even with Trump endorsing the other guy.

If that happens and you think he is obnoxious now... Just wait

Trump has spent years running him (and now his wife) down. I'm quite sure if he wins the election that he'll be a huge thorn in Trump's side. Trump made it personal.

TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

(03-01-2026 04:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 04:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 03:41 PM)hburg Wrote:  France, UK, and Germany have entered the war against Iran.

I guess their hatred for Trump was a facade.

Talk about mismanaging a situation. The US and Israel were relatively isolated in this action---and Iran managed to create a full on Arab-American-European international coalition. Trump now has all the international political cover he'll ever need to defend against domestic political attacks. Im going to assume that Diego Garcia is now back in business for the US Air Force (along with pretty much any airbase located in an Arab nation thats been hit).

That's what happens when you destroy Central leadership in one fatal swoop

Iran was left with no plan forward, no coordinated plan of retaliation and no Russian or Chinese savior coming to bail them out

With Trump in charge I have faith the peace won't be a turdmovie unlike the Bush administration

Wait!!! What???? No you must be mistaken the Russians DID OFFER them SECURITY.

Oh, sorry, my bad. The biggest known LIARS on the planet just showed their true colors again.

(03-02-2026 09:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

Massey has not changed his views that I can tell. Balanced budget, no new wars. He ran on that before Trump was elected the first time, he hasn't changed. Should he just vote with Trump every time? Maybe, but you guys complain about Democrats doing that so I'm not sure why you'd be mad at him for not doing that.

(03-01-2026 07:10 PM)hburg Wrote:  Being reported the new Ayatollah had been eliminated.

I truly cannot believe anyone of sound mind and body would take this job.

Reminds me of the Russian Czar Nicolas in his final days tried to pass off his crown to his brother who respectfully declined.

(03-02-2026 09:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

Massey has not changed his views that I can tell. Balanced budget, no new wars. He ran on that before Trump was elected the first time, he hasn't changed. Should he just vote with Trump every time? Maybe, but you guys complain about Democrats doing that so I'm not sure why you'd be mad at him for not doing that.

And that's why they clash. The Pubs have razor thin margins. Massie often votes against the party.

Doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. He's a pain to the objectives of the party, which I mostly support for now.

If he was the lone wolf and the Pubs had a 30 vote margin, nobody would give a shite about him.

(03-02-2026 09:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:  And that's why they clash. The Pubs have razor thin margins. Massie often votes against the party.

Doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. He's a pain to the objectives of the party, which I mostly support for now.

If he was the lone wolf and the Pubs had a 30 vote margin, nobody would give a shite about him.

I give him credit for running on and following up with the same ideals. He's not bowing to pressure from the top, he'll go back to his private life and probably be much happier if he isn't reelected.

(03-02-2026 09:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

Massey has not changed his views that I can tell. Balanced budget, no new wars. He ran on that before Trump was elected the first time, he hasn't changed. Should he just vote with Trump every time? Maybe, but you guys complain about Democrats doing that so I'm not sure why you'd be mad at him for not doing that.

Not mad at Massey for voting his conscience. Not mad at Trump for seeking an ally in a seat that voted heavily in his favor 3x in a row.

The primary is in May. I would vote for Gallrein. We’ll see what happens.

(03-02-2026 09:44 AM)mlb Wrote:  I give [Massie] credit for running on and following up with the same ideals. He's not bowing to pressure from the top, he'll go back to his private life and probably be much happier if he isn't reelected.

I wish him more happiness.

(03-02-2026 09:40 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 07:10 PM)hburg Wrote:  Being reported the new Ayatollah had been eliminated.

I truly cannot believe anyone of sound mind and body would take this job.

Reminds me of the Russian Czar Nicolas in his final days tried to pass off his crown to his brother who respectfully declined.

The job comes with 72 virgins as a fringe benefit.

(03-02-2026 09:44 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

Massey has not changed his views that I can tell. Balanced budget, no new wars. He ran on that before Trump was elected the first time, he hasn't changed. Should he just vote with Trump every time? Maybe, but you guys complain about Democrats doing that so I'm not sure why you'd be mad at him for not doing that.

Not mad at Massey for voting his conscience. Not mad at Trump for seeking an ally in a seat that voted heavily in his favor 3x in a row.

The primary is in May. I would vote for Gallrein. We’ll see what happens.

Exactly my position.

Could we get back to the actual war in this thread now?

(03-02-2026 09:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  TRUMP made it personal? Why do you think that is?

Funny, Trump has no real issues with anybody else in the House. What made it personal is Massie is a pain in the ass and often votes against the party.

Massey has not changed his views that I can tell. Balanced budget, no new wars. He ran on that before Trump was elected the first time, he hasn't changed. Should he just vote with Trump every time? Maybe, but you guys complain about Democrats doing that so I'm not sure why you'd be mad at him for not doing that.

Elected Officials should vote for what is best for the people they represent. That being said, please explain how Democrats sitting when asked if they support Americans first is representing your base.

Do that many Americans value Illegals over their own well being?

Republicans with the aid of TRUMP are giving the power hungry starved Democrats a taste of their own medicine voting lock step with Trump.

Massey clearly is passive aggressive and that is the real sticking point.

(03-02-2026 09:40 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Russian Czar Nicolas in his final days tried to pass off his crown to his brother who respectfully declined.

Really? I’ve never heard that before.

(03-02-2026 09:47 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 09:40 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Russian Czar Nicolas in his final days tried to pass off his crown to his brother who respectfully declined.

Really? I’ve never heard that before.

Yep. The end was nigh.

(03-02-2026 09:46 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Elected Officials should vote for what is best for the people they represent. That being said, please explain how Democrats sitting when asked if they support Americans first is representing your base.

How can I explain Democrats when I don't agree nor understand their position?

But I digress, Triple A is right, this thread got derailed. Back to the war.

BREAKING NEWS: Trump will address the nation from the WH at 11 am ET today, speaking on the conflict in Iran.

(03-02-2026 07:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 02:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 01:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Apparently Iran hit a British base in Cyprus.

Yeah, one that the fricking UK wouldn't let us use at first. Along with Diego Garcia.

Iran has managed to array a broad coalition against it. It reminds me of the stupidity of the Germans declaring war on us after Pearl Harbor.

Incompetence on FULL DISPLAY. Let me check with my LEGAL TEAM while bombs are raining down on my military bases.

IDIOT needs to resign yesterday.

New: Operation Epic Fury Update From Pete Hegseth - 'This Is Not Iraq'

(03-02-2026 09:59 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 02:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 01:22 AM)hburg Wrote:  Apparently Iran hit a British base in Cyprus.

Yeah, one that the fricking UK wouldn't let us use at first. Along with Diego Garcia.

Iran has managed to array a broad coalition against it. It reminds me of the stupidity of the Germans declaring war on us after Pearl Harbor.

Incompetence on FULL DISPLAY. Let me check with my LEGAL TEAM while bombs are raining down on my military bases.

IDIOT needs to resign yesterday.

Starmer is a serious lefty, like many leaders in Europe. If they were attacked, most of them would probably surrender.