Quote:A new poll released Tuesday by the pollster also showed 48 percent of voters believed former President Joe Biden was the better president compared to 40 percent for trump.

donald trump Dealt ‘Brutal’ Blow from Conservative Pollster

@catPole

Seems like a flawed poll given Biden wasn't actually in charge for a good part of his term.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-people-were...14288.html

Oh no.. A DAILY poll says Trump is doing worse than Biden... Next week it'll be reversed... Every one prior probably has said Trump was better... 99 times out of a 100.

My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

There are some things he could handle better and if he could put a filter between his brain and mouth, things would be smoother.

What everyone needs to realize is that he's not worried about being re-elected in 2028, he's going to spend the time he has to get the things he promised passed.

I don't agree with all of them, but I agree with more than I disagree with. I don't have buyer's remorse, I believe we would be in worse shape economically had the vote went the other way.

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

from BTF's linky of #groverII's accomplishments to date ... I'm curious what's not to like vs. what bidet* accomplished ... @allEars

https://joehoft.com/wow-a-comprehensive-...s-results/

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

If the media covered Biden like they do Trump, Biden's approval rating would be 2%.

If the media covered Trump like they did Biden, Trump's approval rating would be 95%.

When ALL of what most people hear is fabricated/slanted garbage, what do you expect?

Most people are morons (see Tom).

(02-10-2026 04:24 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

There are some things he could handle better and if he could put a filter between his brain and mouth, things would be smoother.

What everyone needs to realize is that he's not worried about being re-elected in 2028, he's going to spend the time he has to get the things he promised passed.

I don't agree with all of them, but I agree with more than I disagree with. I don't have buyer's remorse, I believe we would be in worse shape economically had the vote went the other way.

yeah ... he's a 'bad attitude' ... and it's the kind I liked whence playin' from the big boy table...

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with hi some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

Do you know how tiresome it is hearing libs call everyone that voted for Trump “MAGA”? Do you even know what MAGA means? And if you do, do you realize what a retarded insult it is to Trump supporters?

And this is coming from someone that doesn’t even like Trump as a person.

(02-10-2026 04:29 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

If the media covered Biden like they do Trump, Biden's approval rating would be 2%.

If the media covered Trump like they did Biden, Trump's approval rating would be 95%.

When ALL of what most people hear is fabricated/slanted garbage, what do you expect?

Most people are morons (see Tom).

XACLY! .... #theSheeples

at least Billy Dee plays it fair ... that, I can only respect....

(02-10-2026 04:35 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with hi some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

Do you know how tiresome it is hearing libs call everyone that voted for Trump “MAGA”? Do you even know what MAGA means? And if you do, do you realize what a retarded insult it is to Trump supporters?

And this is coming from someone that doesn’t even like Trump as a person.

how many times have I posted since '15, "he's the necessary EVAL!" ... w/o him, none of us are left standing on this board ... we simply would've said, "fk 'em!" and engaged the fkbags as req'd with 'tools'...

People that use the idea of Making America Great Again as an insult are not worthy of being acknowledged.

I love this country. People that don’t should leave it.

(02-10-2026 04:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  People that use the idea of Making America Great Again as an insult are not worthy of being acknowledged.

I love this country. People that don’t should leave it.

and that boys and gals, is MAGA!!!

those opposed are spooge sponges...

until the left gets off their Freudian fraudulent collection of cellulitis by addressing valid problem solving, they're only worthy of a meme pointing out the obvious...

the same applies to the right ... it's why the SAVE Act is mission critical right. the. fk. NOW!

(02-10-2026 04:29 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

from BTF's linky of #groverII's accomplishments to date ... I'm curious what's not to like vs. what bidet* accomplished ... @allEars

https://joehoft.com/wow-a-comprehensive-...s-results/

Code:

Complete the border wall
Shift federal law enforcement to immigration enforcement
Use advanced technology to monitor and secure the border
Move thousands of overseas troops to the southern border
Deploy the U.S. Navy for a full fentanyl blockade
Strengthen ICE and increase penalties for illegal entry/overstaying visas
Reinstate “Remain in Mexico” policy
Invoke the Alien Enemies Act to remove gang members, drug dealers, or cartel members
Bring back the travel ban
Use Title 42 to return trafficked children to home countries
Strict/extreme vetting to exclude Christian-hating communists, Marxists, socialists, jihadists, or sympathizers
Cut federal funding to sanctuary cities/jurisdictions and require local cooperation with ICE
Prioritize merit-based immigration and end chain migration
Reverse open-border policies, and carry out the largest deportation operation in American history
Make Trump tax cuts permanent
Eliminate taxes on tips
Support baseline tariffs on foreign-made goods
Revoke China’s Most Favored Nation status
Phase out imports of essential goods from China
Stop China from buying American real estate and industries
Prevent importation of Chinese vehicles
Terminate the “Socialist Green New Deal”
Bring critical supply chains back to the U.S.
Unleash American energy production from all sources (oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear)
Strengthen “Buy American and Hire American” policies
End Democrats’ crypto crackdown, oppose Central Bank Digital Currency, defend Bitcoin mining and self-custody of digital assets
Repeal Biden’s AI executive order; support AI development rooted in free speech and human flourishing
Cut costly and burdensome regulations (reinstate Trump-era deregulation)
Expand space industry (manufacturing in near-Earth orbit, return to Moon, onward to Mars, commercial partnerships)
Open limited federal lands for new home construction
Promote homeownership via tax incentives and support for first-time buyers
Create drastically more affordable alternatives to traditional four-year college degrees
Increase healthcare transparency, choice, and competition; expand access to new affordable options
Restore stability to ensure long-term sustainability of Social Security
Strengthen Medicare
Increase focus on chronic disease prevention, long-term care, benefit flexibility, and primary care
Shift resources to at-home senior care
Overturn disincentives causing care worker shortages
Support unpaid family caregivers via tax credits and reduced red tape
End teacher tenure and adopt merit pay
Allow various publicly supported educational models
Universal school choice in every state (expand 529 accounts, support homeschooling equally)
Emphasize project-based learning, work experience, and career training programs
Overhaul school discipline standards and immediate suspension of violent students
Restore and enforce parental rights in education (including stopping race-based discrimination)
Defund schools engaging in political indoctrination
Reinstate the 1776 Commission and promote patriotic civics education
Champion the right to pray and read the Bible in school
Close the federal Department of Education and return control to the states
Replenish police departments and restore common-sense policing
Protect officers from frivolous lawsuits
Stand up to Marxist prosecutors
Compassionately address homelessness to restore street order
Reassert greater federal control over Washington, DC for law and order/maintenance
End luxury housing/taxpayer benefits for illegal immigrants; redirect savings to homeless veterans
Promote culture valuing sanctity of marriage, childhood, and family role; support working parents
Fire radical-left accreditors in higher education
Pursue civil rights cases against discriminating schools
Promote beauty in public architecture and genuine conservation
Organize national celebration for the 250th anniversary of the U.S. founding
Revoke visas of foreign nationals supporting terrorism/jihadism
Hold accountable perpetrators of violence against Jewish people
Hold accountable those misusing government power for political prosecutions
Rein in wasteful federal spending
Declassify records, root out wrongdoers, and fire corrupt employees
Restore Trump-era veterans’ healthcare choice reforms, protect whistleblowers, and hold poor performers accountable
Ban federal collusion in censorship and defund censoring institutions
Create federal task force on fighting anti-Christian bias
Maintain Supreme Court at 9 justices (block expansion)
Support state-level votes on life (14th Amendment protection); oppose late-term abortion; support prenatal care, birth control, and IVF
Ban taxpayer funding for sex-change surgeries and school promotion of gender transition
Reverse Biden’s Title IX rewrite and restore protections for women/girls
No voting rights for illegal aliens
Welcome greater political participation from U.S. territories
Invest in cutting-edge research/technologies and higher troop pay
Fire woke elements from the military
Ensure allies meet defense obligations
Stand with Israel and seek peace/stability in Middle East and Indo-Pacific
Mobilize military assets against cartels trafficking drugs/people
Prioritize defense-critical industries and require “Made in USA” for critical equipment
Protect critical infrastructure/industrial base from malicious cyber actors

Impressive list for Don T. accomplishments (just perused), though some seem exaggerated and others I don't see as successes. But that's just me.

Again, some stuff I like from Trump (getting the border secured; choice of Marco Rubio; getting inflation down somewhat; no tax on tips for restaurant workers) and some I don't.

Drummer of note: Michael Jerome (look him up if you are not familiar)

(02-10-2026 04:35 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with hi some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

Do you know how tiresome it is hearing libs call everyone that voted for Trump “MAGA”? Do you even know what MAGA means? And if you do, do you realize what a retarded insult it is to Trump supporters?

And this is coming from someone that doesn’t even like Trump as a person.

I have no idea what you're talking about BTF. I did not note that everyone who voted for Trump is MAGA. In fact, I simply noted by sister and her husband voted for Trump but are not MAGA. Thus, there are folks who voted for Trump who are MAGA and others who are not. How is that an insult? I'm baffled.

(02-10-2026 04:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:29 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

If the media covered Biden like they do Trump, Biden's approval rating would be 2%.

If the media covered Trump like they did Biden, Trump's approval rating would be 95%.

When ALL of what most people hear is fabricated/slanted garbage, what do you expect?

Most people are morons (see Tom).

XACLY! .... #theSheeples

at least Billy Dee plays it fair ... that, I can only respect....

Thanks, Stink.

(02-10-2026 04:24 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

There are some things he could handle better and if he could put a filter between his brain and mouth, things would be smoother.

What everyone needs to realize is that he's not worried about being re-elected in 2028, he's going to spend the time he has to get the things he promised passed.

I don't agree with all of them, but I agree with more than I disagree with. I don't have buyer's remorse, I believe we would be in worse shape economically had the vote went the other way.

Inflation has come down a bit under Don T. So that's good. The frequent odd statements and tweets ... I always chuckle. Nobody can control him. When he is focused and pleasant, Trump is fine in terms of persona.

(02-10-2026 04:29 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-10-2026 04:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  My sister and her husband voted for Don T. They are pleased with some things he's done — but displeased overall. They are not MAGA but conventional conservatives with lots of friends with similar views and who feel likewise about the Trump second term to date.

I don't care for Trump (though he has had some positive accomplishments) and didn't care for Biden (though he had had some positive accomplishments).

If the media covered Biden like they do Trump, Biden's approval rating would be 2%.

If the media covered Trump like they did Biden, Trump's approval rating would be 95%.

When ALL of what most people hear is fabricated/slanted garbage, what do you expect?

Most people are morons (see Tom).

My sister and her husband don't watch/read leftist media. I don't either and I lean left (but I don't trust CNN, MSN, etc.)

Tom is no moron. He is sharp. You can disagree with him. You can think he's a jerk/anus. But he is no dummy.