(02-03-2026 03:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:02 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I have a friend who is a Navy Chaplain onboard the USS Abe Lincoln. They were in the South China Sea prior to being redirected to the Middle East.

We're in an NFL pick 'em league, and I think his access to his personal email has been cut off for a while. Loser of the league has to put up a framed picture in their office of George C Scott from the movie The Hustler for the following year. He was in last place for the majority of last season, but had a good Week 18 and narrowly avoided it.

I wonder if he's aware.

Usually, when a CSG moves into a potential battle situation, they cut off all but essential electronic communications. So I doubt personal emails in that Group would survive the cut, lol.

Okay but we're talking NFL emails here... :)

Fantasy football is serious business.

Aaaand about to become taxed in the pending people's republic of Virginia. Califa coming to the Mother of Presidents.

Not kidding, taxing fantasy leagues is being proposed.

Good news is we've got the N.C. Sound front lot bought and paid for. We meet with the architect inna couple weeks.

Congrats! That sounds like a blast. I built large custom homes for about 5 years. Great fun.

(02-03-2026 03:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:02 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I have a friend who is a Navy Chaplain onboard the USS Abe Lincoln. They were in the South China Sea prior to being redirected to the Middle East.

We're in an NFL pick 'em league, and I think his access to his personal email has been cut off for a while. Loser of the league has to put up a framed picture in their office of George C Scott from the movie The Hustler for the following year. He was in last place for the majority of last season, but had a good Week 18 and narrowly avoided it.

I wonder if he's aware.

Usually, when a CSG moves into a potential battle situation, they cut off all but essential electronic communications. So I doubt personal emails in that Group would survive the cut, lol.

Okay but we're talking NFL emails here... :)

Fantasy football is serious business.

Aaaand about to become taxed in the pending people's republic of Virginia. Califa coming to the Mother of Presidents.

Not kidding, taxing fantasy leagues is being proposed.

Good news is we've got the N.C. Sound front lot bought and paid for. We meet with the architect inna couple weeks.

That's good news. It just sucks that you're having to leave the Old Dominion for the Tar Heel State, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do, right?

(02-03-2026 03:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:02 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I have a friend who is a Navy Chaplain onboard the USS Abe Lincoln. They were in the South China Sea prior to being redirected to the Middle East.

We're in an NFL pick 'em league, and I think his access to his personal email has been cut off for a while. Loser of the league has to put up a framed picture in their office of George C Scott from the movie The Hustler for the following year. He was in last place for the majority of last season, but had a good Week 18 and narrowly avoided it.

I wonder if he's aware.

Usually, when a CSG moves into a potential battle situation, they cut off all but essential electronic communications. So I doubt personal emails in that Group would survive the cut, lol.

Okay but we're talking NFL emails here... :)

Fantasy football is serious business.

Aaaand about to become taxed in the pending people's republic of Virginia. Califa coming to the Mother of Presidents.

Not kidding, taxing fantasy leagues is being proposed.

Good news is we've got the N.C. Sound front lot bought and paid for. We meet with the architect inna couple weeks.

How in the world would the govt track fantasy football winnings? Who is going to report that?

(02-03-2026 04:02 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 03:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 02:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Usually, when a CSG moves into a potential battle situation, they cut off all but essential electronic communications. So I doubt personal emails in that Group would survive the cut, lol.

Okay but we're talking NFL emails here... :)

Fantasy football is serious business.

Aaaand about to become taxed in the pending people's republic of Virginia. Califa coming to the Mother of Presidents.

Not kidding, taxing fantasy leagues is being proposed.

Good news is we've got the N.C. Sound front lot bought and paid for. We meet with the architect inna couple weeks.

How in the world would the govt track fantasy football winnings? Who is going to report that?

Your guess is as good as mine. I guess they'd expect you to report it like the feds expect people to report lottery winnings.

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes.

Not to mention, it has an entire Carrier Strike Group (CSG) sailing with it. Another 6-10 warships of all flavors.

IDK the exact makeup for this deployment, but here is some of this actual CSG, plus estimates for the remainder of the Group:

1 Flagship: The USS Abraham Lincoln.

3–4 Guided-Missile Destroyers (DDGs): Currently, the group is escorted by the USS Spruance (DDG-111), USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112), and USS Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG-121).

1 Guided-Missile Cruiser (CG): Traditionally, the USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) is assigned to CSG 3, though it may not always be present on every segment of a deployment.

1–2 Attack Submarines (SSN): At least one nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine typically operates in a support role, though its presence is rarely officially confirmed for security reasons.

1 Logistics/Supply Ship: A combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship (such as a Supply-class T-AOE) often accompanies the group to provide fuel and provisions.

Integrated Air Support

The carrier also carries Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9, which consists of approximately 9 squadrons and 65–70 aircraft. This wing includes:

F-35C Lightning II stealth fighters.

F/A-18E/F Super Hornets.

EA-18G Growlers for electronic warfare.

E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for early warning.

MH-60R/S Seahawk helicopters.

I think they already know they are going to get their azz handed to them. My guess is they would like to at least land a shot on an American ship. Step one in trying to hit a US vessel would be to even know where our ships are in real time. My guess is they were sending drones out, kinda like scout planes, likely to an area where the Russians are Chinese told them our ships roughly were. My understanding is the Houthies of all people (likely with Iranian/Russian/Chinese help) managed to come uncomfortably close to landing a shot on an American destroyer. Not a lot of detail on the Feb 2024 encounter, but we do know USS Gravely destroyed a subsonic cruise missile just a mile out from the ship using its 20-mm Phalanx close in weapons system (which is the last line of active defense for a destroyer). A cruise missile being hit a mile out would mean it was only seconds from impact when destroyed.

My guess is that even if iran gets leveled---if they can hit a US warship---the leadership could try to sell that accomplishment as a "win" as no state actor has been able to hit a US warship since Iraq accidentally struck one of our ships with an Exocet missile in the 1980's Iran-Iraq war.

(02-03-2026 04:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes.

Not to mention, it has an entire Carrier Strike Group (CSG) sailing with it. Another 6-10 warships of all flavors.

IDK the exact makeup for this deployment, but here is some of this actual CSG, plus estimates for the remainder of the Group:

1 Flagship: The USS Abraham Lincoln.

3–4 Guided-Missile Destroyers (DDGs): Currently, the group is escorted by the USS Spruance (DDG-111), USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112), and USS Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG-121).

1 Guided-Missile Cruiser (CG): Traditionally, the USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) is assigned to CSG 3, though it may not always be present on every segment of a deployment.

1–2 Attack Submarines (SSN): At least one nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine typically operates in a support role, though its presence is rarely officially confirmed for security reasons.

1 Logistics/Supply Ship: A combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship (such as a Supply-class T-AOE) often accompanies the group to provide fuel and provisions.

Integrated Air Support

The carrier also carries Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9, which consists of approximately 9 squadrons and 65–70 aircraft. This wing includes:

F-35C Lightning II stealth fighters.

F/A-18E/F Super Hornets.

EA-18G Growlers for electronic warfare.

E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for early warning.

MH-60R/S Seahawk helicopters.

I think they already know they are going to get their azz handed to them. My guess is they would like to at least land a shot on an American ship. Step one in trying to hit a US vessel would be to even know where our ships are in real time. My guess is they were sending drones out, kinda like scout planes, likely to an area where the Russians are Chinese told them our ships roughly were. My understanding is the Houthies of all people (likely with Iranian/Russian/Chinese help) managed to come uncomfortably close to landing a shot on an American destroyer. Not a lot of detail on the Feb 2024 encounter, but we know the subsonic cruise missile was destroyed just a mile out with its 20-mm Phalanx close in weapons system (which is the last active line of defense for a destroyer). A cruise missile being hit a mile out would mean it was only seconds from impact when destroyed.

My guess is that even if they get leveled---if they can hit a US warship---that would represent a pretty big accomplishment as no state actor has been able to do that since Iraq accidentally hit one of our ships in the 1980's Iran-Iraq war.

Not a bright move. If anything like that happened, the Ayatollah would be dead in less than 5 minutes.

(02-03-2026 04:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 04:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes.

Not to mention, it has an entire Carrier Strike Group (CSG) sailing with it. Another 6-10 warships of all flavors.

IDK the exact makeup for this deployment, but here is some of this actual CSG, plus estimates for the remainder of the Group:

1 Flagship: The USS Abraham Lincoln.

3–4 Guided-Missile Destroyers (DDGs): Currently, the group is escorted by the USS Spruance (DDG-111), USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112), and USS Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG-121).

1 Guided-Missile Cruiser (CG): Traditionally, the USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) is assigned to CSG 3, though it may not always be present on every segment of a deployment.

1–2 Attack Submarines (SSN): At least one nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine typically operates in a support role, though its presence is rarely officially confirmed for security reasons.

1 Logistics/Supply Ship: A combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship (such as a Supply-class T-AOE) often accompanies the group to provide fuel and provisions.

Integrated Air Support

The carrier also carries Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9, which consists of approximately 9 squadrons and 65–70 aircraft. This wing includes:

F-35C Lightning II stealth fighters.

F/A-18E/F Super Hornets.

EA-18G Growlers for electronic warfare.

E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for early warning.

MH-60R/S Seahawk helicopters.

I think they already know they are going to get their azz handed to them. My guess is they would like to at least land a shot on an American ship. Step one in trying to hit a US vessel would be to even know where our ships are in real time. My guess is they were sending drones out, kinda like scout planes, likely to an area where the Russians are Chinese told them our ships roughly were. My understanding is the Houthies of all people (likely with Iranian/Russian/Chinese help) managed to come uncomfortably close to landing a shot on an American destroyer. Not a lot of detail on the Feb 2024 encounter, but we know the subsonic cruise missile was destroyed just a mile out with its 20-mm Phalanx close in weapons system (which is the last active line of defense for a destroyer). A cruise missile being hit a mile out would mean it was only seconds from impact when destroyed.

My guess is that even if they get leveled---if they can hit a US warship---that would represent a pretty big accomplishment as no state actor has been able to do that since Iraq accidentally hit one of our ships in the 1980's Iran-Iraq war.

Not a bright move. If anything like that happened, the Ayatollah would be dead in less than 5 minutes.

lol---Im not sure he's going to make it regardless of what he does at this point. Last time an Iranian mine hit and damaged a US warship, Reagan trashed a big portion of the few capital ships in the Iranian fleet had.

(02-03-2026 04:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 04:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 04:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes.

Not to mention, it has an entire Carrier Strike Group (CSG) sailing with it. Another 6-10 warships of all flavors.

IDK the exact makeup for this deployment, but here is some of this actual CSG, plus estimates for the remainder of the Group:

1 Flagship: The USS Abraham Lincoln.

3–4 Guided-Missile Destroyers (DDGs): Currently, the group is escorted by the USS Spruance (DDG-111), USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112), and USS Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG-121).

1 Guided-Missile Cruiser (CG): Traditionally, the USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) is assigned to CSG 3, though it may not always be present on every segment of a deployment.

1–2 Attack Submarines (SSN): At least one nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine typically operates in a support role, though its presence is rarely officially confirmed for security reasons.

1 Logistics/Supply Ship: A combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship (such as a Supply-class T-AOE) often accompanies the group to provide fuel and provisions.

Integrated Air Support

The carrier also carries Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9, which consists of approximately 9 squadrons and 65–70 aircraft. This wing includes:

F-35C Lightning II stealth fighters.

F/A-18E/F Super Hornets.

EA-18G Growlers for electronic warfare.

E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for early warning.

MH-60R/S Seahawk helicopters.

I think they already know they are going to get their azz handed to them. My guess is they would like to at least land a shot on an American ship. Step one in trying to hit a US vessel would be to even know where our ships are in real time. My guess is they were sending drones out, kinda like scout planes, likely to an area where the Russians are Chinese told them our ships roughly were. My understanding is the Houthies of all people (likely with Iranian/Russian/Chinese help) managed to come uncomfortably close to landing a shot on an American destroyer. Not a lot of detail on the Feb 2024 encounter, but we know the subsonic cruise missile was destroyed just a mile out with its 20-mm Phalanx close in weapons system (which is the last active line of defense for a destroyer). A cruise missile being hit a mile out would mean it was only seconds from impact when destroyed.

My guess is that even if they get leveled---if they can hit a US warship---that would represent a pretty big accomplishment as no state actor has been able to do that since Iraq accidentally hit one of our ships in the 1980's Iran-Iraq war.

Not a bright move. If anything like that happened, the Ayatollah would be dead in less than 5 minutes.

lol---Im not sure he's going to make it regardless of what he does at this point. Last time an Iranian mine hit and damaged a US warship, Reagan trashed a big portion of the Iranian fleet.

I'd say that's a safe bet, lol. Trump wants the Ayatollah gone. Ayatollah doesn't. He will lose that battle, one way or the other.

Trump has all the cards, and he's certainly not afraid to play them.

"Our concern should be drones. We are entering a new age of warfare. If they are stupidly radical enough, they could attack our carrier with a swarm of 500-600 drones and multiple ballistic missiles at one time just as their allie Russia does to Ukraine. I hope we are prepared for such attacks. Or we destroy their drones before they can launch. This possibility isn’t something to dismiss."

That would be a grave mistake for the Iranians. Trump wouldn't hesitate on eliminating the ayotallah and all his henchmen. Plus all of their military. It would be like when Bush begin the air campaign against Iraq. The Iranian top brass would be finding missiles entering through their windows like the Israelis did to them. They would be eliminated entirely and no tears would be shed.

But, look at the bright side, all those Iranians would be getting their 72 virgins that look like the purple haired Representative from Commiefornia, the one that looks like a witch.

(02-03-2026 07:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  "Our concern should be drones. We are entering a new age of warfare. If they are stupidly radical enough, they could attack our carrier with a swarm of 500-600 drones and multiple ballistic missiles at one time just as their allie Russia does to Ukraine. I hope we are prepared for such attacks. Or we destroy their drones before they can launch. This possibility isn’t something to dismiss."

That would be a grave mistake for the Iranians. Trump wouldn't hesitate on eliminating the ayotallah and all his henchmen. Plus all of their military. It would be like when Bush begin the air campaign against Iraq. The Iranian top brass would be finding missiles entering through their windows like the Israelis did to them. They would be eliminated entirely and no tears would be shed.

But, look at the bright side, all those Iranians would be getting their 72 virgins that look like the purple haired Representative from Commiefornia, the one that looks like a witch.

And then they would end up pitching a hissy fit in hell when they discovered that not a single one of them was a virgin.

(02-03-2026 01:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes. Not to mention, it has an entire task force sailing with it. About another 15 or so warships of all flavors.

Vitrification of the entire region.

vitrification. You taught me a new word. I like it.

(02-03-2026 09:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-03-2026 01:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Turn them to glass if they sent a drone to harass or theeaten one of our carriers.

While our envoy was on his way to meeting with them. Why do they think they can intimidate us? They are playing with fire. Literally.

I know. I was stationed on the USS Forrestal, the first "super carrier." We could have leveled an entire city in a matter of minutes. And it launched in 1955.

Can you imagine what a nuclear powered carrier can do in 2026? Yikes. Not to mention, it has an entire task force sailing with it. About another 15 or so warships of all flavors.

Vitrification of the entire region.

vitrification. You taught me a new word. I like it.

#sand2glass ... how long's it been when you shared that guy, mon shere ... 'bout 4 or 5 yrs., now ...

The Iranian side is testing the response. Expect more of these. New Warfare.