(01-24-2026 02:59 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

The guy does appear to wrestle a gun away from the perp, but the notion that we can draw hard core facts from this one single clip is asinine.

In your twisted diseased fantasy these guys simply wanted to murder the man from the jump, just because they want to murder illegals because its fun. Which is of course ludicrous and shows just how far gone you are in your mental health struggle and political extremism.

The man could be a child rapist and mass murder who was armed and resisted arrest and you would still side with the child rapist under ANY and all circumstances.

In fact there is no circumstance at all where you would ever hold the criminal accountable.

Criminal? Perp? You have anything to back those words up, you bootlicking idiot?

Are you so stupid that you don't even know "perp" means perpetrator?

And your calling me an idiot?

The perpetrator was armed and reportedly threatened the agents and then got violent and tried to take on about 7 agents at once.

Imagine being such a loser in life that you stand in the street in sub zero temps to support criminals and illegal aliens.

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

Maybe you need to pay closer attention, and also watch press conferences around this shooting.

It has been widely reported now that CBP was in the middle of an op to arrest a criminal illegal, when this unknown dude (to CBP at the time) walked up to their group, and started arguing with the officers.

They asked him to back off, and he refused. After some time, several officers moved in to arrest him, and he reportedly either pulled a gun on them, or at least had a gun on him that the officers became aware of at some point. They took him down, and sometime during the melee, shots were fired, and he was killed.

Also, it looks to me like the officer could possibly have pulled the gun out of his hand, not out of his back pocket. Remember, it so far is undisputed that the man in question had a gun on him.

And it seems to me that the audio and the video are maybe not in sync, as most of the shots seem to be fired after he is lying on the sidewalk motionless, obviously dead at that point.

Nobody in his right mind would think the officers shot him several more times after he was lying motionless.

So whatever the truth is, all I'm telling you is don't let your lying eyes ignore the other reporting and all the actual circumstances.

The lesson to me is, don't come to a volatile protest with a gun in your pocket (and two fully loaded mags), engage the LEOs doing their job, resist arrest, possibly pull a gun on them, and expect to walk away clean.

Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

(01-24-2026 02:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 01:47 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 01:41 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The way it sounds the dude shot first. That's why the officers scattered.

Nope, his gun is in the hand of the gray jacket walking away when the first shot is fired.

That's the bear spray can that was on the ground at the beginning of the video. The gun is in the guys right hand. They were trying to get the gun out of his hand.

You sure about that? I’ve never seen bear spray that looks exactly like the sig with an optic they showed a picture of.

(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Shall not be infringed.

Now do Rittenhouse. If a 37 year old concealed carry permit holder shouldn’t have a gun I would love to hear you explain how you think Rittenhouse should.

(01-24-2026 02:55 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:39 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 01:47 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 01:41 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The way it sounds the dude shot first. That's why the officers scattered.

Nope, his gun is in the hand of the gray jacket walking away when the first shot is fired.

That's the bear spray can that was on the ground at the beginning of the video. The gun is in the guys right hand. They were trying to get the gun out of his hand.

Its hard to tell exactly what it was, but you may be right. Time will tell.

One thing is for sure, the last thing on earth those ICE agents wanted to do was kill the man. There is a ton of pressure on them to be flawless and perfect.

Be nice if the local police kept the retards away from federal agents doing their job? You know, cooperating with the agents detaining illegals.... I wonder why they arent doing that? Open question for the commie left to answer.

Pretti Dead was out in the middle of the street waving cars through an active scene like he was playing citizen cop... what a dork.

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Oh look, now there is video of agents clearing Pretti Dead's friends and Pretti Dead out of the street and away from the scene.

Again, these people are out here to cause chaos, interfere, and impede agents doing their J.O.B. They inject themselves into the scene for no logical reason other than what I mentioned.

Go home commie retards

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(01-24-2026 03:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

Maybe you need to pay closer attention, and also watch press conferences around this shooting.

It has been widely reported now that CBP was in the middle of an op to arrest a criminal illegal, when this unknown dude (to CBP at the time) walked up to their group, and started arguing with the officers.

They asked him to back off, and he refused. After some time, several officers moved in to arrest him, and he PULLED A GUN on them. They took him down, and sometime during the melee, shots were fired, and he was killed.

Also, it looks to me like the officer could have pulled the gun out of his hand, not out of his back, lol. Remember, it so far is undisputed that the man in question drew his gun on them. During the fight, it is unlikely he put it back in his pocket.

It seems to me that the audio and the video are not in sync, as most of the shots are fired after he is lying on the sidewalk motionless, obviously dead at that point.

Nobody in his right mind would think the officers shot him several more times after he was lying motionless.

So whatever the truth is, all I'm telling you is don't let your lying eyes ignore the other reporting and all the actual circumstances.

IMO, it is ridiculous to come to your conclusion just from that one video.

The lesson to me is, don't come to a volatile protest with a gun in your pocket (and two fully loaded mags), engage the LEOs doing their job, resist arrest, pull a gun on them, and expect to walk away clean.

The videos don’t support anything you said. I’ll believe the video before Noem’s Nazi spokesperson.

There is video from multiple angles out now, show me the one where he drew a weapon? I’ve showed you the one where grey shirt takes his weapon before the shots.

And the audio isn’t out of sync, you can see the pistol cycle on the zoomed out video and ICE gestapo shoots him 5 more times while he is flat on his back on the ground.

(01-24-2026 03:13 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Shall not be infringed.

Now do Rittenhouse. If a 37 year old concealed carry permit holder shouldn’t have a gun I would love to hear you explain how you think Rittenhouse should.

This is hilariously rich... bwahahahahahahahahaha

The gosh damn irony

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(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Im ok with them having guns.

Im also ok with filth getting shot if they attack.

Game on.

Good luck

(01-24-2026 03:13 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Shall not be infringed.

Now do Rittenhouse. If a 37 year old concealed carry permit holder shouldn’t have a gun I would love to hear you explain how you think Rittenhouse should.

Lawful people who carry are not stupid enough to walk up to federal agents screaming and threatening them.

That is literally the stupidest move in the universe. And on top of that to violently resist 6-7 agents as they try to disarm you.

You have to be the biggest retard in all creation to defend such idiotic and reckless behavior.

(01-24-2026 03:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:59 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

The guy does appear to wrestle a gun away from the perp, but the notion that we can draw hard core facts from this one single clip is asinine.

In your twisted diseased fantasy these guys simply wanted to murder the man from the jump, just because they want to murder illegals because its fun. Which is of course ludicrous and shows just how far gone you are in your mental health struggle and political extremism.

The man could be a child rapist and mass murder who was armed and resisted arrest and you would still side with the child rapist under ANY and all circumstances.

In fact there is no circumstance at all where you would ever hold the criminal accountable.

Criminal? Perp? You have anything to back those words up, you bootlicking idiot?

Are you so stupid that you don't even know "perp" means perpetrator?

The perpetrator was armed and reportedly threaten the agents and then got violent and tried to take on about 7 agents at once.

And they are such ******* that 7 of them can’t put one dude in handcuffs, and had to shoot him after they disarmed him.

(01-24-2026 03:17 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

Maybe you need to pay closer attention, and also watch press conferences around this shooting.

It has been widely reported now that CBP was in the middle of an op to arrest a criminal illegal, when this unknown dude (to CBP at the time) walked up to their group, and started arguing with the officers.

They asked him to back off, and he refused. After some time, several officers moved in to arrest him, and he PULLED A GUN on them. They took him down, and sometime during the melee, shots were fired, and he was killed.

Also, it looks to me like the officer could have pulled the gun out of his hand, not out of his back, lol. Remember, it so far is undisputed that the man in question drew his gun on them. During the fight, it is unlikely he put it back in his pocket.

It seems to me that the audio and the video are not in sync, as most of the shots are fired after he is lying on the sidewalk motionless, obviously dead at that point.

Nobody in his right mind would think the officers shot him several more times after he was lying motionless.

So whatever the truth is, all I'm telling you is don't let your lying eyes ignore the other reporting and all the actual circumstances.

IMO, it is ridiculous to come to your conclusion just from that one video.

The lesson to me is, don't come to a volatile protest with a gun in your pocket (and two fully loaded mags), engage the LEOs doing their job, resist arrest, pull a gun on them, and expect to walk away clean.

The videos don’t support anything you said. I’ll believe the video before Noem’s Nazi spokesperson.

There is video from multiple angles out now, show me the one where he drew a weapon? I’ve showed you the one where grey shirt takes his weapon before the shots.

And the audio isn’t out of sync, you can see the pistol cycle on the zoomed out video and ICE gestapo shoots him 5 more times while he is flat on his back on the ground.

Go back and read my edited version that I was doing while you responded. I revised the "pulled a gun" to "had a gun."

As for the officers shooting him 5 times after he was on the ground, I find that hard to believe, especially if the officer had already taken his gun away.

(01-24-2026 03:24 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:59 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

The guy does appear to wrestle a gun away from the perp, but the notion that we can draw hard core facts from this one single clip is asinine.

In your twisted diseased fantasy these guys simply wanted to murder the man from the jump, just because they want to murder illegals because its fun. Which is of course ludicrous and shows just how far gone you are in your mental health struggle and political extremism.

The man could be a child rapist and mass murder who was armed and resisted arrest and you would still side with the child rapist under ANY and all circumstances.

In fact there is no circumstance at all where you would ever hold the criminal accountable.

Criminal? Perp? You have anything to back those words up, you bootlicking idiot?

Are you so stupid that you don't even know "perp" means perpetrator?

The perpetrator was armed and reportedly threaten the agents and then got violent and tried to take on about 7 agents at once.

And they are such ******* that 7 of them can’t put one dude in handcuffs, and had to shoot him after they disarmed him.

Agree. Should have just shot the filth first but you losers would whine about that too.

Resist with a 9mm and you are gonna die.

Tough shite.

(01-24-2026 03:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:13 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Shall not be infringed.

Now do Rittenhouse. If a 37 year old concealed carry permit holder shouldn’t have a gun I would love to hear you explain how you think Rittenhouse should.

Lawful people who carry are not stupid enough to walk up to federal agents screaming and threatening them.

That is literally the stupidest move in the universe. And on top of that to violently resist 6-7 agents as they try to disarm you.

You have to be the biggest retard in all creation to defend such idiotic and wreckless behavior.

Responsible gun owners know how to carry. Key word is responsible.

Commies arent responsible people by nature nor logical.



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(01-24-2026 03:24 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:59 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

The guy does appear to wrestle a gun away from the perp, but the notion that we can draw hard core facts from this one single clip is asinine.

In your twisted diseased fantasy these guys simply wanted to murder the man from the jump, just because they want to murder illegals because its fun. Which is of course ludicrous and shows just how far gone you are in your mental health struggle and political extremism.

The man could be a child rapist and mass murder who was armed and resisted arrest and you would still side with the child rapist under ANY and all circumstances.

In fact there is no circumstance at all where you would ever hold the criminal accountable.

Criminal? Perp? You have anything to back those words up, you bootlicking idiot?

Are you so stupid that you don't even know "perp" means perpetrator?

The perpetrator was armed and reportedly threaten the agents and then got violent and tried to take on about 7 agents at once.

And they are such ******* that 7 of them can’t put one dude in handcuffs, and had to shoot him after they disarmed him.

Oh please, you are such a dishonest scumbag.

The disarming and shots all happened with about 1 second and how on earth was anyone supped to know he had been disarmed when they are in the middle of a violent scuffle?

(01-24-2026 03:24 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:59 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

The guy does appear to wrestle a gun away from the perp, but the notion that we can draw hard core facts from this one single clip is asinine.

In your twisted diseased fantasy these guys simply wanted to murder the man from the jump, just because they want to murder illegals because its fun. Which is of course ludicrous and shows just how far gone you are in your mental health struggle and political extremism.

The man could be a child rapist and mass murder who was armed and resisted arrest and you would still side with the child rapist under ANY and all circumstances.

In fact there is no circumstance at all where you would ever hold the criminal accountable.

Criminal? Perp? You have anything to back those words up, you bootlicking idiot?

Are you so stupid that you don't even know "perp" means perpetrator?

The perpetrator was armed and reportedly threaten the agents and then got violent and tried to take on about 7 agents at once.

And they are such ******* that 7 of them can’t put one dude in handcuffs, and had to shoot him after they disarmed him.

Guy must have been Pretti Tough before Pretti Dead

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(01-24-2026 03:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:17 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:08 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 02:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  After reading Elvis' comments, I watched that video 5 times trying to verify visually and with sound, from his standpoint, what he is claiming.

Elvis, there is no way in hell a rational person can watch that video and come to your conclusion.

Why don't you just sit down and shut up until we get better video and some official explanation.

You need to go to the optometrist because grey coat goes in without a pistol in his hand, starts digging around in the citizens back area at 22 seconds in, and then walks away from the group with a pistol with an optic before the first shot.

Maybe you need to pay closer attention, and also watch press conferences around this shooting.

It has been widely reported now that CBP was in the middle of an op to arrest a criminal illegal, when this unknown dude (to CBP at the time) walked up to their group, and started arguing with the officers.

They asked him to back off, and he refused. After some time, several officers moved in to arrest him, and he PULLED A GUN on them. They took him down, and sometime during the melee, shots were fired, and he was killed.

Also, it looks to me like the officer could have pulled the gun out of his hand, not out of his back, lol. Remember, it so far is undisputed that the man in question drew his gun on them. During the fight, it is unlikely he put it back in his pocket.

It seems to me that the audio and the video are not in sync, as most of the shots are fired after he is lying on the sidewalk motionless, obviously dead at that point.

Nobody in his right mind would think the officers shot him several more times after he was lying motionless.

So whatever the truth is, all I'm telling you is don't let your lying eyes ignore the other reporting and all the actual circumstances.

IMO, it is ridiculous to come to your conclusion just from that one video.

The lesson to me is, don't come to a volatile protest with a gun in your pocket (and two fully loaded mags), engage the LEOs doing their job, resist arrest, pull a gun on them, and expect to walk away clean.

The videos don’t support anything you said. I’ll believe the video before Noem’s Nazi spokesperson.

There is video from multiple angles out now, show me the one where he drew a weapon? I’ve showed you the one where grey shirt takes his weapon before the shots.

And the audio isn’t out of sync, you can see the pistol cycle on the zoomed out video and ICE gestapo shoots him 5 more times while he is flat on his back on the ground.

Go back and read my edited version that I was doing while you responded. I revised the "pulled a gun" to "had a gun."

As for the officers shooting him 5 times after he was on the ground, I find that hard to believe, especially if the officer had already taken his gun away.

They lit him up but thats what law enforcement is trained to do.

Assumptions get you killed in law enforcement

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(01-24-2026 03:13 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-24-2026 03:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Minnesota has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Open carry and concealed carry both require permits that are difficult to get. If Pretti had a permit or not, he shouldn’t have brought a gun to a peaceful protest. Who goes to a peaceful protest carrying a weapon?

Jeffery Pretti should have told the ICE officers that he had a weapon. Unless of course you’re looking to use the weapon or be martyred.

Shall not be infringed.

Now do Rittenhouse. If a 37 year old concealed carry permit holder shouldn’t have a gun I would love to hear you explain how you think Rittenhouse should.

you are incorrect. this guy had no id on him. in MN, you must have BOTH your conceal carry permit aND your ID on you when you carry.