Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

I'd go with option B JR. Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State and Penn State would be much stronger adds than Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina and/or Duke/Virginia.

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

Now, if the SEC moved to 20 as listed above what kinds of responses might we see from the other conferences?

ACC:

Northeast: Boston College, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia

Northwest: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Mid Atlantic: Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Miami, Louisville, South Florida

* Notre Dame

Big 12:

South: Baylor, Central Florida, Houston, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Tulane

North: Cincinnati, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State

West: Arizona, California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Stanford, Washington

Southwest: Arizona State, Brigham Young, Oregon State, Texas Tech, Utah, Washington St.

* Southern California

There's a top 70

Have fun with that as well!

(11-18-2025 09:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

Now, if the SEC moved to 20 as listed above what kinds of responses might we see from the other conferences?

ACC:

Northeast: Boston College, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia

Northwest: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Mid Atlantic: Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Miami, Louisville, South Florida

* Notre Dame

Big 12:

South: Baylor, Central Florida, Houston, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Tulane

North: Cincinnati, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State

West: Arizona, California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Stanford, Washington

Southwest: Arizona State, Brigham Young, Oregon State, Texas Tech, Utah, Washington St.

* Southern California

There's a top 70

Have fun with that as well!

If the SEC looks like this:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Michigan
Mississippi State
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Penn State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt

Maybe the following happens next:

ACC

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami (FL)
NC State
North Carolina
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
UConn
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
California
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Oregon State
Purdue
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State
Wisconsin

Big XII

Baylor
BYU
Colorado
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
SMU
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

FBS Independent

Notre Dame

Leftovers

Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
South Florida
Tulane
UCF
West Virginia

(11-18-2025 09:49 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 09:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

Now, if the SEC moved to 20 as listed above what kinds of responses might we see from the other conferences?

ACC:

Northeast: Boston College, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia

Northwest: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Mid Atlantic: Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Miami, Louisville, South Florida

* Notre Dame

Big 12:

South: Baylor, Central Florida, Houston, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Tulane

North: Cincinnati, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State

West: Arizona, California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Stanford, Washington

Southwest: Arizona State, Brigham Young, Oregon State, Texas Tech, Utah, Washington St.

* Southern California

There's a top 70

Have fun with that as well!

If the SEC looks like this:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Michigan
Mississippi State
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Penn State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt

Maybe the following happens next:

ACC

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami (FL)
NC State
North Carolina
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
UConn
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
California
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Oregon State
Purdue
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State
Wisconsin

Big XII

Baylor
BYU
Colorado
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
SMU
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

FBS Independent

Notre Dame

Leftovers

Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
South Florida
Tulane
UCF
West Virginia

That's pretty good, but it will depend upon how the Big 10, ACC and Big 12 are valued if it should ever happen. The Big Ten would be losing about half of their value with the 4 schools discussed for the SEC. The ACC might become the 2nd best paid if they hold everyone and add Maryland and Connecticut.

As to Louisville most years they are top 4 in value in the ACC. And they have the best all around athletic department in the ACC.

It will be interesting to see how it all develops.

(11-18-2025 11:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 09:49 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 09:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

Now, if the SEC moved to 20 as listed above what kinds of responses might we see from the other conferences?

ACC:

Northeast: Boston College, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia

Northwest: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Mid Atlantic: Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Miami, Louisville, South Florida

* Notre Dame

Big 12:

South: Baylor, Central Florida, Houston, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Tulane

North: Cincinnati, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State

West: Arizona, California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Stanford, Washington

Southwest: Arizona State, Brigham Young, Oregon State, Texas Tech, Utah, Washington St.

* Southern California

There's a top 70

Have fun with that as well!

If the SEC looks like this:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Michigan
Mississippi State
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Penn State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt

Maybe the following happens next:

ACC

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami (FL)
NC State
North Carolina
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
UConn
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

BIG

Arizona
Arizona State
California
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Oregon State
Purdue
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State
Wisconsin

Big XII

Baylor
BYU
Colorado
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
SMU
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

FBS Independent

Notre Dame

Leftovers

Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
South Florida
Tulane
UCF
West Virginia

That's pretty good, but it will depend upon how the Big 10, ACC and Big 12 are valued if it should ever happen. The Big Ten would be losing about half of their value with the 4 schools discussed for the SEC. The ACC might become the 2nd best paid if they hold everyone and add Maryland and Connecticut.

As to Louisville most years they are top 4 in value in the ACC. And they have the best all around athletic department in the ACC.

It will be interesting to see how it all develops.

What about this instead?

SEC

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Michigan
Mississippi State
Missouri
Nebraska
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Penn State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt

ACC

Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Maryland
Miami (FL)
NC State
North Carolina
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
UConn
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia

BIG

Cincinnati
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Iowa State
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Wisconsin

Big XII

Baylor
BYU
Houston
Memphis
Oklahoma State
SMU
South Florida
TCU
Texas Tech
Tulane
UCF

PAC

Arizona
Arizona State
California
Colorado
Kansas
Kansas State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington State

FBS Independent

Notre Dame

I have a tough time seeing elitist Michigan joining the SEC unless they fall financially behind the B1G substantially. Besides USC, all the other big ten schools were ready to sign that public. Equity deal. I don’t see them abandoning the conference even if they fall a little behind the SEC. I could see Nebraska becoming available due to AAU accreditation issues or Oklahoma starts recruiting them.

If I was the sec, I’d concentrate on seeing if Michigan is a good option to expand with, then try and secure North Carolina and friend(s).

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

I'm not saying it's relevant, but after the Texas and Oklahoma additions got leaked, the rumors in the next few days were that the SEC had been speaking with Florida State, Clemson, Michigan, and Ohio State.

I don't know how much truth there was to that, but it's interesting.

Is it possible the last few years have represented an effort on the part of the Big Ten powers to try to "right the ship?" It wasn't too long after this period that you had the Big Ten leading the "Alliance" which ultimately led to the deconstruction of the PAC. Is it possible that Michigan and Ohio State tried their best and simply aren't happy with the overall progress?

Yes, they added brands on the West Coast which ultimately represents greater travel and the diffusing of what potential ratings benefit would have been achieved by taking the best brands in that region. The national ratings for the Big Ten are not as strong and per capita, they didn't add a ton of viewers from PAC country. Of course, that was the problem for the PAC in the first place.

Personally, I think one of Michigan's core problems is the idea of tying themselves to every corner of the B1G for 20 more years. I think that commitment may be asking too much for schools that have other options.

(11-20-2025 09:04 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(11-18-2025 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes, we entered the beginning of the end game of realignment. Now it must be considered what could potentially happen within the Big Ten. The issue of whether to accept Private Equity seems to be causing division. It's hard to imagine that this issue could be the rock that cracks the walnut of the B1G, but maybe that nut was already cracked with the sharing of gate between the schools with the largest stadia and the absolute largest attendance. Maybe it was cracked when those schools realized how much better ratings the SEC was receiving for games among themselves and how much positive impact Oklahoma and Texas are making in their new digs.

In places like Ann Arbor and Columbus, and Happy Valley, and Madison and Lincoln there has to be a growing concern over enhanced revenue to meet NIL demands but also over the fact that joining the conference with the most to offer means much more for them than they can squeeze out of their current configuration.

We may be on the verge of that much ballyhooed and awaited Super Conference.

One must pose the question of "What if the Big Ten's top brands left for membership in the SEC?"

Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin would take the SEC to 22 schools. With those in hand the rest would come knocking.

Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, and Clemson take you to 28. Washington, Southern California, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

Super Conference SEC:

North: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin

East: Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina, Virginia

South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee

Gulf: Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

Plains: Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma

West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Southern California, Utah, Washington


But if that's too much too soon, how much would simply this be worth:

Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, & Nebraska.

Now you have a very efficient 20 team SEC:

Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Vanderbilt

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas



I hope that gives you something new to think about and play around with.

I'm not saying it's relevant, but after the Texas and Oklahoma additions got leaked, the rumors in the next few days were that the SEC had been speaking with Florida State, Clemson, Michigan, and Ohio State.

I don't know how much truth there was to that, but it's interesting.

Is it possible the last few years have represented an effort on the part of the Big Ten powers to try to "right the ship?" It wasn't too long after this period that you had the Big Ten leading the "Alliance" which ultimately led to the deconstruction of the PAC. Is it possible that Michigan and Ohio State tried their best and simply aren't happy with the overall progress?

Yes, they added brands on the West Coast which ultimately represents greater travel and the diffusing of what potential ratings benefit would have been achieved by taking the best brands in that region. The national ratings for the Big Ten are not as strong and per capita, they didn't add a ton of viewers from PAC country. Of course, that was the problem for the PAC in the first place.

Personally, I think one of Michigan's core problems is the idea of tying themselves to every corner of the B1G for 20 more years. I think that commitment may be asking too much for schools that have other options.

Right. Look at the inducements and then it isn't as crazy as many will claim:
1. Immediate share in the top revenue to be paid moving forward.
2. Access to all regions of the Southeast and Southwest with the best brands possible.
3. Access to potential students in a growing region.
4. Access to recruits more directly in two regions where football is still valued at the High School level.
5. Enough votes to pass any appropriations between Michigan / Ohio and the SEC.
6. It would revive Michigan and Ohio State baseball, both which have been good in the past.
7. They will not lack for peer institutions and they get to keep all of their gate?

The question I would raise is why Florida State and Clemson? Why not add Pennsylvania and Nebraska in a move to 20? There's more money in it.

Now if 24 is the goal you add North Carolina, Clemson, and Florida State along with either Virginia or Duke or Kansas.