Quote:Washington Post

Exclusive: Documents show Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro drafted a letter asking Russia for missiles, radars and upgraded aircrafts as U.S. forces amass in the Caribbean.

Other reporting adds that Maduro also has asked for assistance from China and Iran.

He is attempting to fortify his military for what he thinks is an inevitable attack from the US.

gfl with that...

(10-31-2025 02:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  gfl with that...

Yeah, Sen. Kennedy from LA just said Maduro is quite nervous.

(10-31-2025 02:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  gfl with that...

Yeah, Sen. Kennedy from LA just said Maduro is quite nervous.

lol ... us silly minds and all, Ja?! ...

Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Curious what price Beijing will charge Maduro for any assistance. They won’t help him out of the goodness of their heart.

They will preobably by equipment from....

Ukraine.

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

I think he should invite Soros down for a Patio Party.

I don’t think Iran wants to play against us and neither would China. If he’s worried, then cooperate and quit being a narco state.

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

I could see eeeran (how some pronounce) doing it out of spite … guess what happens if they do … we go in before they have a chance or take ‘em out em route…

China won't get involved. Potentially they could try to be secretive about it but IDTS... Trump has an itchy tariff finger and he's not a big fan of the CCP and Xi. IMHO, Trump's looking for an excuse to put the squeeze back onto China so we'll see...

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia. Of course, that will fly over heads of the Russian cheerleaders on the board who actually believe Russia is our loving friend and Godly protector of Christian heterosexuals.

I really dont think we will invade. I suspect the idea is to hang a sword over his head by a thread and just let the pressure build---hoping internal political forces eventually make retaining power impossible for Maduro. That said, it wouldnt surprise me if we provided help---even air strikes----to any uprising that might need it to wrest control from Maduro.

(10-31-2025 03:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia.

USN probably wouldn't need to use the F35 for this endeavor - or any of the stealth tech I'd guess. Use the old F117s if they must.

(10-31-2025 03:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia. Of course, that will fly over heads of the Russian cheerleaders on the board who actually believe Russia is our loving friend and Godly protector of Christian heterosexuals.

I really dont think we will invade. I suspect the idea is to hang a sword over his head by a thread and just let the pressure build---hoping internal political forces eventually make retaining power impossible for Maduro. That said, it wouldnt surprise me if we provided help---even air strikes----to any uprising that might need it to wrest control from Maduro.

I don't think they would get much of anything as far as useful radar data goes from F35's or stealth bombers. As soon as the ground station tracking radars start radiating either looking for targets (search radar systems) or trying to lock on and track them (fire control radar systems), they give away their positions for incoming missiles to home in on and take them out. Additionally, if the planes are stealthy enough, they probably won't even detect a discernable radar signature to track them with the search radar.

I forgot to add that their radar signals would in all likelihood be jammed by other planes prior to their radar stations being destroyed as well.

(10-31-2025 03:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia.

USN probably wouldn't need to use the F35 for this endeavor - or any of the stealth tech I'd guess. Use the old F117s if they must.

The F117's are also stealth fighter jets. I'm pretty sure you already knew that, but the wording made me less sure.

(10-31-2025 03:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Russia cant knock over a bread truck.

He better call Chyyyyna

Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia. Of course, that will fly over heads of the Russian cheerleaders on the board who actually believe Russia is our loving friend and Godly protector of Christian heterosexuals.

I really dont think we will invade. I suspect the idea is to hang a sword over his head by a thread and just let the pressure build---hoping internal political forces eventually make retaining power impossible for Maduro. That said, it wouldnt surprise me if we provided help---even air strikes----to any uprising that might need it to wrest control from Maduro.

AC. I usually agree with you, but not this time. I'm almost certain Trump is going to go in and take him out, by whatever means necessary. He already has said he views Maduro exactly like ISIS, and you know what Trump did to them.

Maduro is a dictator who took the country after losing the election with only maybe 30% of the vote.

In several gaggles on AF1 lately, Trump has mentioned doing exactly that. If he's talking openly about it, he's doing it.

I also don't think he believes the opposition has the ability to take out Maduro, so that leaves us. He is not going to sit there and let Maduro keep killing Americans through his drug trafficking.

Maduro is actually the head of his own cartel, and Trump views him just as he does Sinaloa and the others.

The difference is, Trump doesn't have a legit president of the country begging him to hold off. In fact, the opposition party would welcome it.

(10-31-2025 04:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-31-2025 02:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Well, he's not looking for troops. He wants missiles, radar and aircraft.

the rooskie’s are empty…

True, which is why he also is asking China and Iran.

Iran is empty too. I wouldnt be surprised if the Russians send some anti-air assets there. Yes, they need them desperately elsewhere---but the Russians would probably love to collect some S-400 radar data on F-35's and stealth bombers in action for deep dive analysis on ways to detect those platforms. Thats one reason we would not sell Turkey F-35's if they were going to buy S-400's from Russia. Of course, that will fly over heads of the Russian cheerleaders on the board who actually believe Russia is our loving friend and Godly protector of Christian heterosexuals.

I really dont think we will invade. I suspect the idea is to hang a sword over his head by a thread and just let the pressure build---hoping internal political forces eventually make retaining power impossible for Maduro. That said, it wouldnt surprise me if we provided help---even air strikes----to any uprising that might need it to wrest control from Maduro.

AC. I usually agree with you, but not this time. I'm almost certain Trump is going to go in and take him out, by whatever means necessary. He already has said he views Maduro exactly like ISIS, and you know what Trump did to them.

Maduro is a dictator who took the country after losing the election with only maybe 30% of the vote.

In several gaggles on AF1 lately, Trump has mentioned doing exactly that. If he's talking openly about it, he's doing it.

I also don't think he believes the opposition has the ability to take out Maduro, so that leaves us. He is not going to sit there and let Maduro keep killing Americans through his drug trafficking.

Maduro is actually the head of his own cartel, and Trump views him just as he does Sinaloa and the others.

The difference is, Trump doesn't have a legit president of the country begging him to hold off. In fact, the opposition party would welcome it.

He certainly has assembled a ton of assets there. That said---I just dont see him sending troops into a place that could easily become a quagmire forever war. I think he's waiting for internal forces to topple Maduro. I DO think he would aid an internal group that just needed a little help to get the job done---but a straight up full on invasion in a situation where its not really necessary----I feel is very unlikely with this president. I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.