Boy did he mislead people. Garland and Wray need to be locked up forever. They approved all of the unconstitutional attacks on legitimate activities.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/10/29/arc...onization/

"...Tuesday’s document dump follows news from last week that in early April of 2022, then-FBI Director Christopher Wray sought approval to launch Arctic Frost as a “full investigation.” In a memorandum drafted for Attorney General Merrick Garland, Wray claimed that “fraudulent certificates of electors’ votes were submitted to the Archivist of the United States” for Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin. Director Wray claimed the Washington Field Office concluded there were “specific and articulable facts that individuals, both known and unknown, engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct Congress’s certification of the Electoral College on January 6, 2020, including through the submission of fraudulent certificates of electors’ votes to the United States Government.”

Biden’s attorney general approved the opening of the criminal investigation, even though Wray’s memorandum detailed public comments by both the Trump team and the various alternative electors establishing that their intent was to preserve the legal challenges to the election. Equally shocking is AG Garland’s decision to approve the investigation even with clear precedent pointing to the propriety of the use of alternative electors in contested elections...."

Trump needs to have the federal government pay all the alternate electors legal bills and damages.
And the states who did it need to pay.

They should all be charged with federal civil rights violations, including Fani Willis and the state AGs.

He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

What did the S&P500 close at today?

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

The case was dismissed because the DOJ has a policy to not prosecute sitting presidents.

That’s not quite the exoneration I think you were trying to claim.

(10-29-2025 06:20 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

The case was dismissed because the DOJ has a policy to not prosecute sitting presidents.

That’s not quite the exoneration I think you were trying to claim.

Do you think it will be resurrected after Trump leaves office? Seriously?

I would say the voters were the jury in that case, which was BS to start with.

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

And if Elvis could read, he would see that it was not fake electors. I've got some of the other leftists on ignore, but other than Elvis, I will occassionally look at their posts.
I did put it in my OP, but more detail is in the article with the Hawaii example.

(10-29-2025 07:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

And if Elvis could read, he would see that it was not fake electors. I've got some of the other leftists on ignore, but other than Elvis, I will occassionally look at their posts.
I did put it in my OP, but more detail is in the article with the Hawaii example.

1. In Hawaii the electors we submitted in the open with the knowledge of the governor.
2. There was an unfinished recount in Hawaii
3. The Hawaii electors weren’t submitted as part of a conspiracy to have the vice president throw out the real electors.
4. Hawaii sent a 3rd slate before Jan 6th after the recount finished changing the result.

The Trump administration was actively engaging in a conspiracy to have Pence throw out legit electors, or have him recuse himself and and have a temporary president of the senate. They may have stated in public that their intent was to preserve the legal challenge, but in their emails they clearly outlined a conspiracy to throw out the lawfully certified votes. Just because you say you aren’t breaking the law doesn’t make it true.

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

You really are quite the simpleton to still be glued to what was proven as demonstrably false.

The problem you idiots have is that for a while there we conservatives thought that although we had different ideas about what was best for the country, we could all agree that we were all interested in just that: the best interests of the country. Not anymore; you loons want to tear it all down. It's why we never hear any objections to the actions of groups like BLM and antifa from you anti-American fools.

You'll be led away with the rest of the lemmings when the time comes. I will not comply unless they catch me off guard. Even then they're going to have to shoot me or beat me unconscious. I'll die first. You're fine with living on your knees while fellating whoever happens to be your dear leader at any given time. Not me; as it is said, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

(10-29-2025 07:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

And if Elvis could read, he would see that it was not fake electors. I've got some of the other leftists on ignore, but other than Elvis, I will occassionally look at their posts.
I did put it in my OP, but more detail is in the article with the Hawaii example.

That doesn't fit the narrative he's been tasked with perpetuating, so why even bother explaining it to him? He's of the sort who won't believe what's right in front of his face, ever. He'll stick with what dear leaders have told him, and all else is simply untrue.

(10-29-2025 10:10 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 07:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

And if Elvis could read, he would see that it was not fake electors. I've got some of the other leftists on ignore, but other than Elvis, I will occassionally look at their posts.
I did put it in my OP, but more detail is in the article with the Hawaii example.

1. In Hawaii the electors we submitted in the open with the knowledge of the governor.
2. There was an unfinished recount in Hawaii
3. The Hawaii electors weren’t submitted as part of a conspiracy to have the vice president throw out the real electors.
4. Hawaii sent a 3rd slate before Jan 6th after the recount finished changing the result.

The Trump administration was actively engaging in a conspiracy to have Pence throw out legit electors, or have him recuse himself and and have a temporary president of the senate. They may have stated in public that their intent was to preserve the legal challenge, but in their emails they clearly outlined a conspiracy to throw out the lawfully certified votes. Just because you say you aren’t breaking the law doesn’t make it true.

Show us these emails you claim prove what you are clearly lying about. Who was charged and found guilty? No one? Imagine that.

Almost 11 years of lies, false accusations, sham show trials' and all sorts of untruthful accusations against him. For four of those years you idiots controlled everything, and yet you failed to find him guilty of anything more than a freakin' process crime that was blown way out of proportion on your side's witch hunt. And he is STILL POTUS.

You've been had, buster. You have swallowed the whole load in one gulp and never even gagged a bit. Your wifes boyfriend must love you.

(10-30-2025 07:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 10:10 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 07:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 06:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 05:25 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  He needs to be locked up for, checks notes, charging Trump with a crime he committed?

Trump was involved in the fake electors scheme. Trump pressured Pence to disregard the lawful electors from the states.

Trump told Pence he was “too honest” meaning Trump knew what he was doing was dishonest.

Are you still harping on this? What was the outcome of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Biden served 4 long, miserable, incompetent years.

And if Elvis could read, he would see that it was not fake electors. I've got some of the other leftists on ignore, but other than Elvis, I will occassionally look at their posts.
I did put it in my OP, but more detail is in the article with the Hawaii example.

1. In Hawaii the electors we submitted in the open with the knowledge of the governor.
2. There was an unfinished recount in Hawaii
3. The Hawaii electors weren’t submitted as part of a conspiracy to have the vice president throw out the real electors.
4. Hawaii sent a 3rd slate before Jan 6th after the recount finished changing the result.

The Trump administration was actively engaging in a conspiracy to have Pence throw out legit electors, or have him recuse himself and and have a temporary president of the senate. They may have stated in public that their intent was to preserve the legal challenge, but in their emails they clearly outlined a conspiracy to throw out the lawfully certified votes. Just because you say you aren’t breaking the law doesn’t make it true.

Show us these emails you claim prove what you are clearly lying about. Who was charged and found guilty? No one? Imagine that.

Almost 11 years of lies, false accusations, sham show trials' and all sorts of untruthful accusations against him. For four of those years you idiots controlled everything, and yet you failed to find him guilty of anything more than a freakin' process crime that was blown way out of proportion on your side's witch hunt. And he is STILL POTUS.

You've been had, buster. You have swallowed the whole load in one gulp and never even gagged a bit. Your wifes boyfriend must love you.

Dude. Nicely done!

I don't really understand the fascination with interacting with these buffoons.

(10-30-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't really understand the fascination with interacting with these buffoons.

I agree it's useless to respond to these morons, so why do it? Because I consider it a public service for the edification of the general viewing public in here.

I learn a lot by reading the responses from reasonable people in here to these goofballs.

Not to mention, you interact with them when the spirit moves you.

(10-30-2025 07:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-30-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't really understand the fascination with interacting with these buffoons.

I agree it's useless to respond to these morons, so why do it? Because I consider it a public service for the edification of the general viewing public in here.

I learn a lot by reading the responses from reasonable people in here to these goofballs.

Not to mention, you interact with them when the spirit moves you.

My interactions with them are 99% making fun of them. And I do that whether I can read their posts or not. I no longer need to read what they say to know what they say. Same old same old.

(10-30-2025 07:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-30-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't really understand the fascination with interacting with these buffoons.

I agree it's useless to respond to these morons, so why do it? Because I consider it a public service for the edification of the general viewing public in here.

I learn a lot by reading the responses from reasonable people in here to these goofballs.

Not to mention, you interact with them when the spirit moves you.

commie tommie is wholly responsible for sig line 3 --->>> sig line 4 ... until then, I had never condensed into two phrasings ... ~11 yrs. ago , he let me know I was his "first on ignore." ... yeah, I told him that was the biggest mistake he could've made ...

what's really ironic is he's attempted to plagiarize my 'prose' over the years ... #utterFail #thereCanOnlyBeOne ...

Quote:"with the age of 'importance', one can only hope for humility and respect ... then one realizes they are still breathing"

"if you act like a dipshite, you deserve to be treated like a dipshite."

(10-30-2025 07:27 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(10-30-2025 07:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-30-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't really understand the fascination with interacting with these buffoons.

I agree it's useless to respond to these morons, so why do it? Because I consider it a public service for the edification of the general viewing public in here.

I learn a lot by reading the responses from reasonable people in here to these goofballs.

Not to mention, you interact with them when the spirit moves you.

My interactions with them are 99% making fun of them. And I do that whether I can read their posts or not. I no longer need to read what they say to know what they say. Same old same old.

So are most of mine these days. And I limit myself to reading two paragraphs. Any more than that is just more bloviating. Especially with that one dude.

And to be fair, I'm merely expressing my "opinion" that I don't understand interacting with them. I am not putting anyone down for doing it. I understand WHY people do it, and that's their business, I just don't understand what they get out of doing it.