Pakistani secret services helped the Taliban while their government aided us in the Afghan War. Now the Taliban and Pakistan are clashing.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/1...now-so-far

"Pakistani and Afghan forces have exchanged deadly fire at multiple locations along their border, and the two sides claim to have captured and destroyed border posts in one of the worst border clashes in recent years.

The Taliban administration’s spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, said at least 58 Pakistani soldiers were killed in “retaliatory” attacks on Saturday night, two days after blasts were reported in the Afghan capital, Kabul, and the southeastern province of Paktika.

The Pakistani military admitted 23 of its soldiers were dead while claiming to have killed 200 Taliban and affiliated “terrorists”. Pakistan’s interior minister called the Afghan attacks “unprovoked firing”.

The Taliban government has accused Pakistan of carrying out Thursday’s bombings. Pakistan has neither confirmed nor denied the allegations.

Pakistan was accused of backing Taliban fighters during their rebellion against the United States-led occupation of Afghanistan and was one of only three countries that recognised the first Taliban government from 1996 to 2001...."

Sucks to be them…
Truthfully though it's happened to us more than once.

The cult of Islam is death. Not only to the infidel but to those that don’t follow the individuals preferred sect of Islam. It is kin to Baptist killing Methodist, Catholics, Presbyterians or anyone else not following their form of Christianity. Except that no where in the Christian religion does it command killing other Christians. This behavior is central to Islam.

Gotta keep your dog on a leash

Just doing some figuring here.

Taliban says they killed 58, while the Paki's claim 23 dead soldiers. From this I am guessing it is somewhere in the middle, perhaps a total of 40 dead soldiers and associated militia or civilians working for the military.

We can guess that there is a roughly 2:1 injury vs. Death rate that is a fairly typical number for infantry fighting, meaning 80 injured and 120 total casualties.

Given that the intensity was not an all-out war, I am guessing a 4:1 ratio of troops to casualties. So, with 120 casualties, you probably had 480 men involved, though we can probably round that up to 500 when including some form of HQ.

I would guess the Taliban casualties are a little higher, as Pakistan has more advanced weaponry and has a slightly more cohesive fighting force. They probably also had more men involved since they were more often on the defense. Probably ~700 men.

So, between the ~8 areas, you are probably looking at ~150 men going at it in each location. For modern war, that is some decent sized unites that can cause a pretty high level of destruction.

It sounds like very little ground was gained or lost by either side. So, once again the soldiers and the common citizens lose. The bankers and munition makers win.

My guess is the Taliban will end up being sorry they started this fight. The Taliban is pretty limited when it comes to heavier weapons, artillery, and air assets. The Taliban did pretty well on day one----likely due to the advantage of surprise. But over the last two days, it appears the Pakistan forces have been using their heavy weapons advantage to level Taliban border bases and units. I dont think the Taliban has a chance in hell of being able to stop the Pakistan army if they decide to push the Taliban back from the border areas to create a buffer zone. The only real advantage the Taliban has going for them is Pakistan cant really concentrate on the Taliban because they have a conflict with a far more formidable India still simmering.

(10-15-2025 12:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  My guess is the Taliban will end up being sorry they started this fight. The Taliban is pretty limited when it comes to heavier weapons, artillery, and air assets. The Taliban did pretty well on day one----likely due to the advantage of surprise. But over the last two days, it appears the Pakistan forces have been using their heavy weapons advantage to level Taliban border bases and units. I dont think the Taliban has a chance in hell of being able to stop the Pakistan army if they decide to push the Taliban back from the border areas to create a buffer zone. The only real advantage the Taliban has going for them is Pakistan cant really concentrate on the Taliban because they have a conflict with a far more formidable India still simmering.

Well in half the border, its so mountainous, those tanks and the artillery aren't of much use. That's why the Taliban could never be exterminated by the Russians or the Americans.