The “Epstein Affair” (don’t know if anyone else uses that term, but I think of it that way) will never be a nothing burger to me. It’s actually very important, imho.

But at the same time, I’ve never seen any evidence that Trump had anything to do with it. To Epstein, Trump was just another wealthy individual who moved in some of the same social circles in New York and Miami/Palm Beach.

But muh Trump is a pedophile! Reddit says so.

Dems have been asked before, but it's quite telling when the Biden administration had 4 years plus all of this info and never pursued Trump on any crimes related to Epstein. If the files truly held damning evidence against Trump the BIDEN DOJ would have released the files already.

Seriously, people out there can be so stupid. Or at least the Dem party today thinks we are.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. When Democrat judges refuse to release Grand Jury testimony, with witnesses redacted of course, you know their bluff has been called.

(08-12-2025 06:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Sunlight is the best disinfectant. When Democrat judges refuse to release Grand Jury testimony, with witnesses redacted of course, you know their bluff has been called.

It was never going to be allowed by nearly any judge.

The suits would fly immediately to unmask the witnesses so that they could immediately be sued for defamation in an amount equal to the GDP of a small nation.

I bet people who feared they'd be named already had the pleadings drafted.

The chilling effect on witnesses grand jury testimony would potentially be massive.

(08-12-2025 05:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Dems have been asked before, but it's quite telling when the Biden administration had 4 years plus all of this info and never pursued Trump on any crimes related to Epstein. If the files truly held damning evidence against Trump the BIDEN DOJ would have released the files already.

Not to mention the Obama DOJ during the time that Trump was a candidate in 2015/16, and also the years leading up to that, when Trump started doing the birther stuff. Not to mention all the anti-Trump zealots embedded into the FBI and other agencies, who could and would and did leak everything that could possibly harm Trump, even while Trump was in office. And finally, not to mention that Epstein himself was definitely alive until 10th August 2019 and would’ve gladly traded anti-Trump dirt for leniency.

So, yeah, the idea that — after all these years — Epstein will provide the Democrats with the silver bullet they need to Get Trump is just stupid from every angle. Just another straw for Dems. and pro-Dem. media to grasp at while their post-Biden irrelevance continues.

Only the truly stupid believe Trump is wrapped up in the Epstein files. Desperate Dems would’ve released that to stop him long ago. Especially after their BS felony “convictions” and assassination attempts failed.

(08-12-2025 06:44 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(08-12-2025 06:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Sunlight is the best disinfectant. When Democrat judges refuse to release Grand Jury testimony, with witnesses redacted of course, you know their bluff has been called.

It was never going to be allowed by nearly any judge.

The suits would fly immediately to unmask the witnesses so that they could immediately be sued for defamation in an amount equal to the GDP of a small nation.

I bet people who feared they'd be named already had the pleadings drafted.

The chilling effect on witnesses grand jury testimony would potentially be massive.

Well then it’s a mute argument because Leftists know Leftist judges will protect Leftist criminals.

A Conservative already can’t get a fair trial in ANY urban area in America. Judges and juries are stacked against Conservatives.

If they can do what they did to Donald Trump, what chance do any of us have?