(06-16-2025 08:36 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 05:18 PM)TripleA Wrote:  He also had removed his Senate lapel pin, and nobody knew who he was.

Right, other than him saying loudly, "I'm Senator Padilla."

But the right and Noem crying "political theater" here is the chef's kiss.

I could say I'm Senator such and such. Without any way to verify that on the spot -- like, you know, a Senate lapel pin -- I could be seen as a wacko trying to crash a press conference. Which is what Padilla did. This was a premeditated stunt. Quit justifying it.

For someone who supposedly hates bad behavior, you certainly love to wrap your arms around it like a child clinging to its mother. Quit justifying bad behavior.

Not justifying anything. I don't think it was the right place for him to confront her.

That being said, no, he did no "lunge" toward her.

Padilla also says that he was actually brought him into the room.
Padilla says FBI agent, Guard member escorted him to Noem's briefing before removal

And as to not knowing him, Corey Lewandowski did...and actually sort of stood up for him in getting him uncuffed.
Senator Manhandled by DHS Agents Says ‘Of All People, Corey Lewandowski’ Told Them to Stop: ‘One of the Most Surreal Things’

I also don't believe there's any requirement for him to wear a lapel pin...and most of the ones I see wearing them are only when they're on Capitol Hill.

And let's not also lose sight of the fact of what Noem said right before...that she/they planned to "liberate" the city. That's some serious **** to be spouting over a tiny dustup.

Quote:“We are not going away,” she warned. “We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city.”

Kristi Noem says the feds are coming to ‘liberate’ Los Angeles

But what I find most amusing is how someone managed to steal her purse in a restaurant and get away but a senator gets tackled for merely asking a question...LOL

Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

(06-16-2025 08:36 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  The Dems are just mad they don’t have anyone on their side who is as hot as Kristi Noem. I mean tom thinks Gretchen is, but

Yeah...that's it...they only like women politicians for their looks.

FFS, you guys are pathetic.

(06-16-2025 09:00 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Nobody in the country knew there was a Senator Padilla. I'm a political
wonk and I've never heard of him.

My guess is nobody in that room had any idea wio that dooshbag was. lol

So, your excuse is that the people tasked with securing the homeland...including the Secretary herself...can't be bothered with knowing who the 100 US senators are?

God, no wonder you approve of trump and his incompetence. The bar is the height of a flea.

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

He was already at that location for a briefing after her presser...and he was escorted into the room by the FBI and security according to him. You really think he just walked into a room, uncleared by the SS, to get within earshot of a presidential cabinet member?

Think man.

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

Think?

I think that Padilrod was doing it for the cameras like any other petulant democrat. That's what I think

(06-16-2025 09:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

Think?

I think that Padilrod was doing it for the cameras like any other petulant democrat. That's what I think

Yep. He most certainly was. It was a premeditated political stunt.

Also, Tom: "I'm not justifying [Padilla's] bad behavior." *proceeds to justify his bad behavior*

You really can't make this crap up.

(06-16-2025 09:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

Think?

I think that Padilrod was doing it for the cameras like any other petulant democrat. That's what I think

Again, have you met irony?

(06-16-2025 09:32 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

Think?

I think that Padilrod was doing it for the cameras like any other petulant democrat. That's what I think

Yep. He most certainly was. It was a premeditated political stunt.

Also, Tom: "I'm not justifying [Padilla's] bad behavior." *proceeds to justify his bad behavior*

You really can't make this crap up.

I didn't justify his behavior whatsoever. He's a senator and I hold him to a higher standard. He should not have been asking a question in that scenario...although it was supposedly a news conference...but he should not have interrupted her.

And he was wrong to fight the guys who tried to move him.

(06-16-2025 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:32 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 09:03 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Are there no telephone lines between the senate and DHS???

Apparently senator Padilrod doesn't know how to work a phone.

Think?

I think that Padilrod was doing it for the cameras like any other petulant democrat. That's what I think

Yep. He most certainly was. It was a premeditated political stunt.

Also, Tom: "I'm not justifying [Padilla's] bad behavior." *proceeds to justify his bad behavior*

You really can't make this crap up.

I didn't justify his behavior whatsoever. He's a senator and I hold him to a higher standard. He should not have been asking a question in that scenario...although it was supposedly a news conference...but he should not have interrupted her.

And he was wrong to fight the guys who tried to move him.

like we said, you f*ck around and you will find out. Also, like the senator said, noone is above the law.

Manufactured Outrage: How Biased Reporting and Video Editing Distorted the Padilla Story

Quote:The dramatic confrontation between Senator Alex Padilla and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem at a Los Angeles press conference on June 12, 2025, has become a textbook case of how selective video editing and news reporting can shape public perception of events.

While cameras captured the entire incident from multiple angles, mainstream media outlets have consistently chosen to focus on clips that begin during or after the physical confrontation began, omitting crucial context that preceded the senator’s removal.

During Secretary Noem’s press conference about immigration enforcement operations in Los Angeles, Democratic Senator Alex Padilla interrupted her remarks, attempting to ask questions about what he characterized as the administration’s rotating display of “violent criminals” for political purposes.

What happened next has been the subject of intense political debate and sharply divergent media coverage.

Federal agents forcibly removed Padilla from the room, pushed him to the ground in a hallway, and handcuffed him. The senator was later released without charges and subsequently met with Noem for approximately 15 minutes.

Multiple television cameras and recording devices were operational throughout the entire press conference, capturing every moment from beginning to end.

Yet the video clips being circulated by major news outlets consistently begin at the point where physical contact between Padilla and federal agents was already underway.

The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement claiming that “Mr. Padilla was told repeatedly to back away and did not comply with officers’ repeated commands.”

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino similarly stated that Padilla “physically resisted law enforcement when confronted.” These official accounts suggest there was a period of verbal warnings and escalating non-compliance before physical force was employed.

However, The Washington Post’s analysis noted there was “no audible evidence of repeated asks or warnings from officers for Padilla to back away in videos reviewed by The Post.”

This finding has been widely cited as contradicting the official government narrative. However, this analysis was based on incomplete footage.

The Post’s conclusion was specifically limited to “videos reviewed,” which appear to be the same edited clips being distributed across media platforms.

These clips systematically exclude the crucial 30-60 seconds that would have captured any initial warnings or commands given to Padilla.

Video evidence from the hallway incident shows what appears to be Padilla’s active resistance to officer commands.

Multiple federal agents were required to get Padilla to comply with orders to get on his knees, and the footage shows him continuing to resist as officers worked to restrain him.

This physical evidence of non-compliance supports the official accounts of the incident.

The pattern of coverage reveals how editorial choices can fundamentally alter public understanding of events.

Democratic leaders including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer condemned what he called “the manhandling of a United States senator,” while House Speaker Mike Johnson characterized Padilla’s behavior as “wildly inappropriate” and suggested censure might be warranted.

Conservative outlets like Fox News emphasize Padilla’s lack of Senate security pin, his failure to properly identify himself initially, and describe him as “storming” the press conference.

Liberal outlets focus on the dramatic nature of a sitting senator being handcuffed, Democratic outrage, and questions about proportional response to the situation. Mainstream outlets attempt balance but consistently rely on the same edited footage that excludes pre-confrontation context.

The controversy over Padilla’s failure to identify himself centers largely on the absence of his Senate security pin, but the timing of his identification is the critical issue.

Federal officials consistently claimed Padilla “did not identify himself” and wasn’t wearing his required Senate security pin, with FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino stating he “was not wearing a security pin and physically resisted law enforcement when confronted.”

Video evidence does show Padilla identifying himself by saying “I am Senator Alex Padilla” – but this occurred during the physical confrontation as he was being removed from the room.

At that point, with agents already engaged in restraining someone they perceived as a threat, it would be unreasonable to expect them to stop mid-action to reassess the situation.

Mainstream media have circulated photos showing the congressional insignia on Padilla’s polo shirt as evidence that agents should have known who he was, but these images were taken after multiple agents had moved him into the corridor during the restraint process, when his jacket opened to reveal the shirt underneath.

The photographer had a better vantage point than the officers engaged in the physical struggle, and the insignia was not visible until that moment, well after the initial approach and confrontation had begun.

A Secret Service official told NBC News that agents “work off pins” to recognize dignitaries, suggesting their standard protocol relies on immediate visual identification.

The missing 1-5 minutes of footage before the confrontation would definitively show whether Padilla followed proper identification protocols or whether agents were justified in treating him as an unidentified individual approaching a Cabinet secretary.

The systematic exclusion of this critical context from reporting and widely circulated footage represents editorial manipulation that distorts public perception, deliberately feeding preferred narratives and advancing political agendas—almost always in favor of the left and Democrat policies and interests.

Watch: Padilla Gives Jaw-Dropping Take on the Incident With Noem; DHS Then Claps Back

Quote:California Senator Padilla denies that he was looking for a viral moment this week when he pushed his way toward DHS Secretary Noem during her press conference, and says he was simply wanting to ask a question.

The only problem with his answer? Secretary Noem was not taking questions when he was yelling and forcing his way toward her.

Political theater.

Quote:Serious people don’t barge into a press conference, interrupt while the Secretary of Homeland Security is giving opening remarks and then start aggressively lunging toward her, defying officers commands to move back and then pushing and shoving law enforcement.

A Kindergartener knows better.

It is embarrassing conduct for any person, much less a sitting U.S. Senator.

Again. Noem gets death threats EVERY day of her life. He's lucky he wasn't at least tazed. He looks to be at least 6'3" and 230lbs+.

"It depends on how you ask the question" Padilla

So now he's copying Clintons response to having sex with the intern Lewinsky? What is the exact quote, I can't remember but it fits.

One thing you guys need to understand is USSS has been under a microscope for several years - granted a lot of it is DEI leading to poor performance but they've failed on some protection details including on the nominee - now president.

They're not taking anything for granted with one of their protectees. A Secret Service agent isn't going to care if you're a sitting Senator or the Pope, if you make any outside the line gestures, movements, or threats to a protectee, they're going to intervene with extreme prejudice. What a dumb f'n move by this Senator all to get his name out there on behalf of criminals.

(06-17-2025 03:02 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  One thing you guys need to understand is USSS has been under a microscope for several years - granted a lot of it is DEI leading to poor performance but they've failed on some protection details including on the nominee - now president.

They're not taking anything for granted with one of their protectees. A Secret Service agent isn't going to care if you're a sitting Senator or the Pope, if you make any outside the line gestures, movements, or threats to a protectee, they're going to intervene with extreme prejudice. What a dumb f'n move by this Senator all to get his name out there on behalf of criminals.

I'll bet you he'll be trying to get the nomination for president for the Demonics. It's time for an hispanic and there will be many fools who would vote for him just as there are many who voted for Oblunder because of his race. It would be disastrous for our nation to elect someone like him only because of his tan.

You watch...

(06-17-2025 04:41 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-17-2025 03:02 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  One thing you guys need to understand is USSS has been under a microscope for several years - granted a lot of it is DEI leading to poor performance but they've failed on some protection details including on the nominee - now president.

They're not taking anything for granted with one of their protectees. A Secret Service agent isn't going to care if you're a sitting Senator or the Pope, if you make any outside the line gestures, movements, or threats to a protectee, they're going to intervene with extreme prejudice. What a dumb f'n move by this Senator all to get his name out there on behalf of criminals.

I'll bet you he'll be trying to get the nomination for president for the Demonics. It's time for an hispanic and there will be many fools who would vote for him just as there are many who voted for Oblunder because of his race. It would be disastrous for our nation to elect someone like him only because of his tan.

You watch...

Rubio is a Hispanic.

(06-12-2025 07:10 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 06:48 PM)hburg Wrote:  Should be charged. These demoncrats act like they are above the law and unfortunately many are with the two tier system.

The two tier system is part of the Herbert Marcuse version of Marxist theory.

That you know the name Marcuse is a plus in your favor, so many people don't. They go about their lives blithely ignoring the things going on all around them, all of which is intended to destroy them individually, and us, collectively as a country...

Quick, without looking it up, who first introduced the concept of the war of position within the framework of politics?

And what have we witnessed over the last 85 years? Communist infiltration. What does the war of position entail?

Further, are we moving beyond a war of position to a war of maneuver? All the violence we see going on across the country would certainly seem to suggest that they are switching strategies. They appear to believe they have created enough division and sowed enough discontent to turn this into class warfare in the good old Soviet style.

(06-16-2025 09:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 08:36 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-16-2025 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 05:18 PM)TripleA Wrote:  He also had removed his Senate lapel pin, and nobody knew who he was.

Right, other than him saying loudly, "I'm Senator Padilla."

But the right and Noem crying "political theater" here is the chef's kiss.

I could say I'm Senator such and such. Without any way to verify that on the spot -- like, you know, a Senate lapel pin -- I could be seen as a wacko trying to crash a press conference. Which is what Padilla did. This was a premeditated stunt. Quit justifying it.

For someone who supposedly hates bad behavior, you certainly love to wrap your arms around it like a child clinging to its mother. Quit justifying bad behavior.

Not justifying anything. I don't think it was the right place for him to confront her.

That being said, no, he did no "lunge" toward her.

Padilla also says that he was actually brought him into the room.
Padilla says FBI agent, Guard member escorted him to Noem's briefing before removal

And as to not knowing him, Corey Lewandowski did...and actually sort of stood up for him in getting him uncuffed.
Senator Manhandled by DHS Agents Says ‘Of All People, Corey Lewandowski’ Told Them to Stop: ‘One of the Most Surreal Things’

I also don't believe there's any requirement for him to wear a lapel pin...and most of the ones I see wearing them are only when they're on Capitol Hill.

And let's not also lose sight of the fact of what Noem said right before...that she/they planned to "liberate" the city. That's some serious **** to be spouting over a tiny dustup.

Quote:“We are not going away,” she warned. “We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city.”

Kristi Noem says the feds are coming to ‘liberate’ Los Angeles

But what I find most amusing is how someone managed to steal her purse in a restaurant and get away but a senator gets tackled for merely asking a question...LOL

Where to start?? OK, a tiny dustup?? And I'll just stop there. Anyone who characterizes the events in LA as a tiny dustup is too stupid to even try to have a rational discussion with.