(02-28-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Back to the OP, I saw an interview with a law officer yesterday...he said there was ZERO evidence of foul play upon initial review.

Updated article:

Quote:They have not ruled out the couple being victims of a double homicide, suicide, accidental death or natural causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...-us-so-far

Living a life well lived to 95 years of age and not dying of a prolonged illness...sign me up.

(02-28-2025 08:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Back to the OP, I saw an interview with a law officer yesterday...he said there was ZERO evidence of foul play upon initial review.

Updated article:

Quote:They have not ruled out the couple being victims of a double homicide, suicide, accidental death or natural causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...-us-so-far

Well that pretty much covers everything but a comet strike.

(02-28-2025 08:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Back to the OP, I saw an interview with a law officer yesterday...he said there was ZERO evidence of foul play upon initial review.

Updated article:

Quote:They have not ruled out the couple being victims of a double homicide, suicide, accidental death or natural causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...-us-so-far

Well, duh, of course. That's why it makes sense to wait until insinuating as others have, that anything untoward occurred.

(02-28-2025 09:16 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Living a life well lived to 95 years of age and not dying of a prolonged illness...sign me up.

Yeah...have to agree. I was thankful my dad passed quickly. I hate to see anyone suffer.

(02-28-2025 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:16 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Living a life well lived to 95 years of age and not dying of a prolonged illness...sign me up.

Yeah...have to agree. I was thankful my dad passed quickly. I hate to see anyone suffer.

Same here. My now late grandmother on my mom's side lived to be 91, but she had Alzheimer's Disease. (Well, really, it was just full-blown dementia, but Alzheimer's was what her doctor said. My grandmother on my dad's side had early-onset Alzheimer's so he wasn't far off.) It was still sad when she passed, but we were relieved because she wasn't suffering anymore. The fallout from her death, however, wasn't pretty. Let's just say there was a lot of infighting amongst her surviving children, including Mom, who did her best to stay above the fray. That's the part I can certainly do without.

As for my paternal grandfather, he also lived to be 91. Unfortunately, he had Parkinson's Disease, the same disease Michael J. Fox has. His body also suffered considerably. But up until the last two or three months of his life, PaPa (pronounced "PawPaw") was still sharp as a tack.

It's safe to say I wouldn't wish either of these diseases on anybody.

(02-28-2025 10:46 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2025 09:16 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Living a life well lived to 95 years of age and not dying of a prolonged illness...sign me up.

Yeah...have to agree. I was thankful my dad passed quickly. I hate to see anyone suffer.

Same here. My now late grandmother on my mom's side lived to be 91, but she had Alzheimer's Disease. (Well, really, it was just full-blown dimensia, but Alzheimer's was what her doctor said. My grandmother on my dad's side had early-onset Alzheimer's so he wasn't far off.) It was still sad when she passed, but we were relieved because she wasn't suffering anymore. The fallout from her death, however, wasn't pretty. Let's just say there was a lot of infighting amongst her surviving children, including Mom, who did her best to stay above the fray. That's the part I can certainly do without.

As for my paternal grandfather, he also lived to be 91. Unfortunately, he had Parkinson's Disease, the same disease Michael J. Fox has. His body also suffered considerably. But up until the last two or three months of his life, PaPa (pronounced "PawPaw") was still sharp as a tack.

It's safe to say I wouldn't wish either of these diseases on anybody.

Yeah, my oldest sister has Parkinson's. Brutal thing to deal with.

Mom just turned 90. Her mother and almost all her sisters lived until their mid-90's and never had any of those types of issues. She's still living on her own and gave up driving on her 90th. She is still pretty sharp and knows we need to get a POA and things in order just in case. Planning on getting that done this spring.

The 911 caller is most likely the Prime suspect. Stated on the call the door was locked, but when EMT/Cops showed ip the door was "ajar". It was the same door. Caller was looking threw the window next to that door because, the wife was on the floor in the bathroom next to the door.

(02-28-2025 12:23 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The 911 caller is most likely the Prime suspect. Stated on the call the door was locked, but when EMT/Cops showed ip the door was "ajar". It was the same door. Caller was looking threw the window next to that door because, the wife was on the floor in the bathroom next to the door.

Also, the dog that died starved to death, but the Hackmans owned two other dogs at the time of death, and those are okay. Hmm...something very fishy is going on. But like Steve Doocy of Fox News said while guest hosting on Outnumbered, it'll be at least three weeks before we get any definitive answers.

Hackman's pacemaker stopped on Feb 13. They were discovered on Feb 26.

Awful. Can't imagine what their families are going through. Prayers all around.

(02-27-2025 08:24 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2025 06:41 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-27-2025 05:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-27-2025 05:03 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What was that fracas with OST about?

He was trying to turn it into a political mudslinging fest. Some fell for the bait. I, however, did not.

Another great movie that Gene Hackman starred in was The Replacements, where he co-starred with Keanu Reeves. Looooove that movie!

I don't remember watching Gene Hackamn growing up. My parents probably did.

OST is an idiot, but we already knew that. It looks like he's gone for good, maybe.

Its been forever since I saw Young Frankenstein---it wasnt until I saw a clip from it today that I realized Hackman was in the movie.

Same here.

(02-28-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Back to the OP, I saw an interview with a law officer yesterday...he said there was ZERO evidence of foul play upon initial review.

Now there's a first, you trying to steer a thread back on topic.

(03-01-2025 07:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Awful. Can't imagine what their families are going through. Prayers all around.

Speaking of families, how does a child go two weeks without speaking to their parents?

(03-01-2025 07:07 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-01-2025 07:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Awful. Can't imagine what their families are going through. Prayers all around.

Speaking of families, how does a child go two weeks without speaking to their parents?

Agreed. My dad is 94 and my mom is 92. Talk to him every day, usually twice a day.

(03-01-2025 07:07 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-01-2025 07:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Awful. Can't imagine what their families are going through. Prayers all around.

Speaking of families, how does a child go two weeks without speaking to their parents?

It happens unfortunately.

A true story: Many decades ago, a TX woman was found mummified in her home and police come to find out that her son lived with his family a few miles down the road. For whatever reason they didn’t check up on her and no there was no in-fighting or anything like that. They just were ‘too busy’

Michael Baden thinks the simplest explanation for the deaths is this:

1. Hackman had a fatal heart attack and fell in the mud room.
2. His wife ran to the bathroom to get his meds to try to help him, fell and hit her head, taking a fatal blow herself.
3. The dog constrained in his cage died of dehydration, since he was in there about 9 days.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...cumstances

(03-02-2025 12:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Michael Baden thinks the simplest explanation for the deaths is this:

1. Hackman had a fatal heart attack and fell in the mud room.
2. His wife ran to the bathroom to get his meds to try to help him, fell and hit her head, taking a fatal blow herself.
3. The dog constrained in his cage died of dehydration, since he was in there about 9 days.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...cumstances

There was no trauma noted to either body. Also, one would think 911 would have been called instead of fumbling for meds. Ain't buying the 2. portion of the scenario.

(03-02-2025 01:04 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-02-2025 12:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Michael Baden thinks the simplest explanation for the deaths is this:

1. Hackman had a fatal heart attack and fell in the mud room.
2. His wife ran to the bathroom to get his meds to try to help him, fell and hit her head, taking a fatal blow herself.
3. The dog constrained in his cage died of dehydration, since he was in there about 9 days.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ge...cumstances

There was no trauma noted to either body. Also, one would think 911 would have been called instead of fumbling for meds. Ain't buying the 2. portion of the scenario.

Read the article. Baden explained that she could take a fatal blow without obvious signs. And she wouldn't call 911 first if she was scrambling to try to find something to help him.