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News Allies Bluff, They Cannot Make It Without the US in Ukraine
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RE: Allies Bluff, They Cannot Make It Without the US in Ukraine
(02-24-2025 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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And half its 18 members are Republicans.

And WSME
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RE: Allies Bluff, They Cannot Make It Without the US in Ukraine
This is some early polling information on how Americans see the Ukraine situation and Trumps handling of the issue. Its largely what I expected. I think my views are fairly representative of what the majority of Americans want to see. It appears that only about a third to 40% of Republicans agree with where I am---but added to the Democrats and Independents----a pretty solid majority ARE where I am. In a nut shell---Americans prefer Ukraine and Russia negotiate an end to the war, they prefer Ukraine and Europeans to NOT be left out of the negotiations, they oppose Trump forcing Ukraine to make territorial concessions to end the war, and believe that Ukraine should receive security guarantees from the United States if it makes concessions to Russia (2 thirds of Americans believe the bolded part according to the poll which DID surprise me a bit). The polling says Americans absolutely despise Putin. Up to now, Trump has concentrated on issues where he was supporting the overwhelmingly popular common sense side of the debate....this is the first time in this term where his actions on an issue could potentially start rubbing a solid majority of Americans the wrong way.

To be fair---I think Americans are being naive if they think Ukraine wont have to make territorial concessions in order to get to a peace settlement---but thats what the poll claims Americans believe.


https://thehill.com/policy/international...th-russia/
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RE: Allies Bluff, They Cannot Make It Without the US in Ukraine
(02-24-2025 07:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-24-2025 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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And half its 18 members are Republicans.

And WSME
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Quote:Because Trump is rightly tired of the U.S. paying for Ukraine’s defense, the world is turning on him. Ukrainian officials are criticizing America, Europe is calling Trump “Hitler,” and Ukrainian soldiers on Twitter are removing American flags from their uniforms—all because the American gravy train is about to dry up. With Trump demanding a better deal for the American people, the world will have to fend for itself. Europe is experiencing adolescent angst now, as it is forced to man-up, come of age, and move out from under the U.S. protective umbrella

Why are they wearing American Flags on their uniforms in the first place?
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RE: Allies Bluff, They Cannot Make It Without the US in Ukraine
(02-26-2025 07:48 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  
Quote:Because Trump is rightly tired of the U.S. paying for Ukraine’s defense, the world is turning on him. Ukrainian officials are criticizing America, Europe is calling Trump “Hitler,” and Ukrainian soldiers on Twitter are removing American flags from their uniforms—all because the American gravy train is about to dry up. With Trump demanding a better deal for the American people, the world will have to fend for itself. Europe is experiencing adolescent angst now, as it is forced to man-up, come of age, and move out from under the U.S. protective umbrella

Why are they wearing American Flags on their uniforms in the first place?

As I said below, Trump just told Europe they have to man up and protect Ukraine by themselves. We are tired of doing it for them.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-1007129.html
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