Tue 1/14
630 50 Villanova 4-2 11-6 @ 62 Xavier 2-4 10-7 FS1
700 12 Marquette 5-0 14-2 @ 133 DePaul 0-6 9-8 CBSSN
730 69 Georgetown 3-2 12-4 @ 28 St John's 5-1 14-3 Peacock
830 82 Providence 3-3 9-8 @ 54 Creighton 3-2 10-6 FS1
Wed 1/15
700 179 Seton Hall 1-4 6-10 @ 88 Butler 0-6 7-10 FS1

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25 UConn 5-1 13-4

(01-13-2025 08:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Tue 1/14
630 50 Villanova 4-2 11-6 @ 62 Xavier 2-4 10-7 FS1
700 12 Marquette 5-0 14-2 @ 133 DePaul 0-6 9-8 CBSSN
730 69 Georgetown 3-2 12-4 @ 28 St John's 5-1 14-3 Peacock
830 82 Providence 3-3 9-8 @ 54 Creighton 3-2 10-6 FS1
Wed 1/15
700 179 Seton Hall 1-4 6-10 @ 88 Butler 0-6 7-10 FS1

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25 UConn 5-1 13-4

It's unusual that there is ever a Big East game for which I might say to myself "I have zero interest in watching even one minute of this game." But that could be the case with the Hall vs. Butler.

A Georgetown win at St. John's would be huge.

If Nova tops Xavier ... that might all but end XU's chances of an at-large bid.

As to DePaul hosting Marquette ... I'm simply hoping the Blue Demons lose by fewer than 10 points.

Thought St. John's would crack the top 25 this week. Close but no cigar, maybe next week.

2 of these games feel like "make or break" games.....

Nova vs. X
Providence vs Creighton

Creighton and Nova in better shape than the other 2 but if Jays lose at home it could really hurt their resume....

Worried about my Johnnies tomorrow night.....Dunlap, Glover and now Smith all with injuries, so the backcourt is thin....plus, Gtown was not good last year and both SJU/Hoya games were close....Hoyas look SO much better this year....great to see....

also, nice to see RJ Luis, Jr. win this week's player of the week.....he was a monster on Saturday night!

I was thinking St. John's would crack the Top 25 this week. Close. No. 26 in both polls. R.A. Pitino is getting the job done in Jamaica.

so was looking at Ken Pom at Iowa St(who has the nations longest winning streak) for the realignment board bball thread.

Didn't realize that Butler right now has the nations 3rd longest losing streak. What has gone wrong there this year?

(01-13-2025 04:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so was looking at Ken Pom at Iowa St(who has the nations longest winning streak) for the realignment board bball thread.

Didn't realize that Butler right now has the nations 3rd longest losing streak. What has gone wrong there this year?

I sadly think that Matta is unable to stay competitive in today's NIL landscape; Butler can't rely on "the Butler Way" to compete at a high level, as it this new model actively encourages players to cash out. Out of all of the BE programs, I think I am most fearful for them, simply because Butler hasn't been able to compete in the upper echelon of the conference since Holtmann (and the hire before him was a dud too - B. Miller).

I'm also concerned about the long term effects of NIL. It's not just getting players, but being able to keep good coaches. Seton Hall has had a pretty good run the past ten years or so, but you have to be concerned about their prospects moving forward.

On a side note A.J. Dybantsa signed with BYU for 7 million to go there next year as a freshman. Where does the madness end when the BYU's of the world are paying that kind of money, and how can the Butler's and Seton Hall's keep up, let alone the rest of us?

(01-13-2025 10:52 PM)Traderwill Wrote:  I'm also concerned about the long term effects of NIL. It's not just getting players, but being able to keep good coaches. Seton Hall has had a pretty good run the past ten years or so, but you have to be concerned about their prospects moving forward.

On a side note A.J. Dybantsa signed with BYU for 7 million to go there next year as a freshman. Where does the madness end when the BYU's of the world are paying that kind of money, and how can the Butler's and Seton Hall's keep up, let alone the rest of us?

Yeah I think Seton Hall is another one that you worry about for sure right there with Butler. I think what happened with Kadary Richmond had to be an eye opener for them.

(01-13-2025 11:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-13-2025 10:52 PM)Traderwill Wrote:  I'm also concerned about the long term effects of NIL. It's not just getting players, but being able to keep good coaches. Seton Hall has had a pretty good run the past ten years or so, but you have to be concerned about their prospects moving forward.

On a side note A.J. Dybantsa signed with BYU for 7 million to go there next year as a freshman. Where does the madness end when the BYU's of the world are paying that kind of money, and how can the Butler's and Seton Hall's keep up, let alone the rest of us?

Yeah I think Seton Hall is another one that you worry about for sure right there with Butler. I think what happened with Kadary Richmond had to be an eye opener for them.

Right. Supposedly Seton Hall made what they felt was a competitive offer to keep Richmond, but obviously it wasn't nearly competitive enough. I've wondered if all things being equal, he would have preferred remaining with The Hall, but couldn't turn down the money.

I hate to say any game is a must win this early in the season but I feel like X’s slim chances of dancing disappear if they don’t get the win tonight

(01-13-2025 08:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Tue 1/14
630 50 Villanova 4-2 11-6 @ 62 Xavier 2-4 10-7 FS1
700 12 Marquette 5-0 14-2 @ 133 DePaul 0-6 9-8 CBSSN
730 69 Georgetown 3-2 12-4 @ 28 St John's 5-1 14-3 Peacock
830 82 Providence 3-3 9-8 @ 54 Creighton 3-2 10-6 FS1
Wed 1/15
700 179 Seton Hall 1-4 6-10 @ 88 Butler 0-6 7-10 FS1

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25 UConn 5-1 13-4

Villanova @ X... I want to take Nova, but I still just don't trust Neptune fully. There was a point each of the past 2 seasons I thought they had turned it around and then they lost games they shouldn't have, so I'm a little skeptical that it's not happening again. But Nova has a better chance of making the tourney and is thus who I'm rooting for in this one.

Marquette probably wins easily @DePaul. Less than 10 would be impressive bill, I agree.

Georgetown @SJU. Should be another really good one. Think I'm going with SJU in this one because they're home and have more depth. Although it looked like Smith hurt his shoulder pretty badly last game, if he isn't available it could make this one much more difficult for SJU.

Gotta think CU easily beats PC at home.

Nice to see UConn has the rotation off to prep for CU.

If we want the Big East to land four at-large bids (five total with the auto qualifier), we should want Nova to beat X tonight.

I don't get Peacock so will miss GU vs. SJU.

If DePaul loses by nine or fewer, I'll toast my beer to Nameless (from afar, of course).

(01-13-2025 04:53 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(01-13-2025 04:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so was looking at Ken Pom at Iowa St(who has the nations longest winning streak) for the realignment board bball thread.

Didn't realize that Butler right now has the nations 3rd longest losing streak. What has gone wrong there this year?

I sadly think that Matta is unable to stay competitive in today's NIL landscape; Butler can't rely on "the Butler Way" to compete at a high level, as it this new model actively encourages players to cash out. Out of all of the BE programs, I think I am most fearful for them, simply because Butler hasn't been able to compete in the upper echelon of the conference since Holtmann (and the hire before him was a dud too - B. Miller).

Unfortunately I think you're right. It is sad, because I think Matta is still a good coach. His teams just never have enough firepower

(01-14-2025 04:18 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If we want the Big East to land four at-large bids (five total with the auto qualifier), we should want Nova to beat X tonight.

I don't get Peacock so will miss GU vs. SJU.

If DePaul loses by nine or fewer, I'll toast my beer to Nameless (from afar, of course).

Start toasting!

X beats Nova. All the progress for Nova could be lost come this weekend if they lose to Georgetown.

Good game with St John's and Georgetown

Creighton did what they needed to do vs Providence.

Even though it was better for the league to see Marquette win, I found myself pulling for DePaul tonight. Feel bad for them, it was a good effort, but not quite enough.

Johnnies keep winning ugly. Thought they really missed Smith in the first half tonight. Georgetown has some pieces, could be really tough next year assuming they get everyone back.

The game was there for Nova tonight. Winning all night and up three with 1:40 to go, and then everything went to hell. Hate to always blame Neptune, but he never pushes the right buttons down the stretch. Makes the Georgetown game pretty much a must win.

Creighton seems to be rounding into shape, should be a great game against UConn this weekend

I'm toasting Nameless from afar as DePaul hangs with an outstanding Marquette tea — losing by only two, 85-83 in OT. Sadly, the Blue Demons are 0-7 in Big East play (9-9 overall) and have played themselves out of (realistically) an NIT bid.

XU and Nova now both 11-7 overall after X wins 69-63 in the Chili City.

St. John's with a quality win over Georgetown.

And a stabilized and moving-forward Creighton now 4-2 in league play (and 11-6 overall) after besting Providence by 20 in Omaha. Creighton has won four of its last five.

Holtmann will get DePaul back to the tourney. Despite the record, this isn't the DePaul of old.

As we're almost done with 1/3 of the season now- here's how the BET would be shaping up-
9 Seton Hall vs 8 Providence
1 Marquette

5 Villanova
4 Creighton

11 DePaul vs 6 Georgetown
3 UConn

10 Butler vs 7 Xavier
2 St John's

(01-14-2025 10:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-14-2025 04:18 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  If we want the Big East to land four at-large bids (five total with the auto qualifier), we should want Nova to beat X tonight.

I don't get Peacock so will miss GU vs. SJU.

If DePaul loses by nine or fewer, I'll toast my beer to Nameless (from afar, of course).

Start toasting!

X beats Nova. All the progress for Nova could be lost come this weekend if they lose to Georgetown.

Good game with St John's and Georgetown

Creighton did what they needed to do vs Providence.

This is what I was worried about with Nova. Based on their performance recently and how badly they needed this win, this is the type of game I expected them to win. But I was hesitant, because these Neptune teams are so up and down all the time. Just no consistency.

I missed the games last night, but really wish I had watched Marquette DePaul. Seems like it was a good one. I'll try and catch a replay.

SJU solidifying themselves in the field, but Georgetown needs to start winning again soon or they will play themselves out of the field.

I'm convinced Creighton will make it and we will have at least 4 bids