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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins
01-04-2025 04:47 PM
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:47 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins
You can't give both of those guys 10 minutes without putting better players on the bench.
01-04-2025 05:11 PM
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:47 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins

Lolololololol
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 05:11 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:47 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins
You can't give both of those guys 10 minutes without putting better players on the bench.

You could if you want at 10 man rotation....
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
I hate for any player to leave in the middle of the season, unless they are causing problems. Who knows if Greg was a problem for the team or not? I do know his body language was awful. Sure you get upset when short shots aren’t falling, but I thought his reactions were over the top at times.

Although Greg went 14-43 (32.6%) from three last season, he was 0-3 here at UAB. What I find shocking was his free throw percentage at Iona last season, 48-93 (51.6%). He is an elite athlete, but shoots free throws worse that Shaq did in his NBA career (52.7%). Greg was 2-8 this season.

The fact he left Iona in mid February, after starting in 24 games, and now left UAB, I suspect UAB is better without him. Good luck to him.
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I would play up tempo with bunch. Run and press the entire game and do a 10 man rotation. Our players are much better suited for an up tempo transition games. Especially with no true pg.
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
I agree attalla. I’ve said that of almost every AK TEAM.

And I wondered myself if Gordon was causing locker room issues kevmo … maybe his departure will be an addition by subtraction.

It’s wild; bc despite awful shooting #s he put up big time stats in juco and at Iona.
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
Almost every year there is an “athlete” transfer who gets buried on the bench or quits by January. Maybe stop with that strategy and give the spot to a true 3-point specialist or a pass-and-defend facilitating PG?
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-04-2025 04:47 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 03:34 PM)Rell Wrote:  Hate he's gone.

More backcourt mins for Miles

More frontcourt mins for Shaver

I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins

Technically Donahoo was called off the bench before Shaver yesterday. That should tell you all you need to know about his mins the remainder of the year.
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(01-05-2025 10:42 AM)Pavy78 Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:47 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:39 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:28 PM)Rell Wrote:  
(01-04-2025 04:23 PM)hooper Wrote:  I think I read that AK views Myles as a 4 for now.

I just hate it that guys burn a year of eligibility with very little playing time.

That is correct.

He's definitely not a post player if any post mins are available Shaver should get em. Miles should be getting ready along with Hargrove on the perimeter especially since we lose a guard to injuries for a few games seasonally.

This is what I read. Makhi Myles: “A long, athletic freshman. He reminds me a little bit of a baby Ty Brewer. He's probably more of a four than a three now. But I think in time he can evolve into a three like Ty did. I love his motor. I love his competitiveness. I think the kid has got a really bright future.”

Totally agree, plus he was on his way to Wichita state so some ability there. Atleast 10 mins.

Also like Shaver actually being a former Tar heel should get mins comfortably. Probably goes to bucky ball and average a double double next year. Atleast 10 mins

Technically Donahoo was called off the bench before Shaver yesterday. That should tell you all you need to know about his mins the remainder of the year.


We all get it's a 8 man rotation, but in blowouts sometimes you like to see us use others properly. Tulsa was one of those games Shaver had 10 mins to sub exclusively for Yax back up mins is all I'm saying.

Heck Kennedy hasn't played a min is he the worst player? Miles could replace Gordon’s mins too


Just happy a guard is finally stepping up to score buckets.
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The extreme optimistic take would be the last 2 times this has happened (LeBlanc & White) we made the tournament. There have been guys in AK's doghouse but not dismissed from the team if I remember correctly
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Also I may be wrong but looking at your new 13 ( I know new ncaa law yada) it was needed? As Tony Toney is the only guy that loses eligibility with the juco thing as all the Seniors were JuCo at some point they have extra year?

That with three signees simple fix if needed.
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I see Dunning is having success elsewhere….
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(01-05-2025 12:31 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I see Dunning is having success elsewhere….

Ol James White averaging 20 a night
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(01-05-2025 09:38 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Almost every year there is an “athlete” transfer who gets buried on the bench or quits by January. Maybe stop with that strategy and give the spot to a true 3-point specialist or a pass-and-defend facilitating PG?

From your keyboard to God’s ears.
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(01-05-2025 01:58 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 09:38 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Almost every year there is an “athlete” transfer who gets buried on the bench or quits by January. Maybe stop with that strategy and give the spot to a true 3-point specialist or a pass-and-defend facilitating PG?

From your keyboard to God’s ears.

+1000000… maybe will learn a lesson with his recruiting now. 2 years in a row this has happened. We’ve had multiple other guys leave mid season or basically be benched but stay on and not help… those aRe super valuable roster spots.
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(01-05-2025 03:12 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 01:58 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 09:38 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Almost every year there is an “athlete” transfer who gets buried on the bench or quits by January. Maybe stop with that strategy and give the spot to a true 3-point specialist or a pass-and-defend facilitating PG?

From your keyboard to God’s ears.

+1000000… maybe will learn a lesson with his recruiting now. 2 years in a row this has happened. We’ve had multiple other guys leave mid season or basically be benched but stay on and not help… those aRe super valuable roster spots.

I just don't understand why AK with 30 years NCAA coaching experience just does not take advice from message board warriors with zero coaching experience. (Sarcasm)

I think what he is doing is what he should be doing. Getting the best players he can and then letting things shake out when they get here.
If you insist on a pure "point guard" rather than the best player you might get a pretty big drop off in talent.

Last year, I was not really concerned when White left because in the 7 games he played I just did not think he brought much to the team. So I am a bit surprised he is averaging 19.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg and 35% from 3.
Part of it is New Orleans is 345 in Kenpom. That is swac level.

I was not ready to give up on Gordon even though he was our 9th guy. If any of our top 8 get injured or in foul trouble we will wish we had him.

As far as playing 10 guys. Sounds great except the talent level drops a good bit for #'s 9 and 10. (especially after Gordon)
And there also might be more cohesion when you are primarily playing with 7 other guys rather that 9.
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RE: Greg Gordon has left the basketball team
(01-05-2025 04:00 PM)hooper Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 03:12 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 01:58 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(01-05-2025 09:38 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  Almost every year there is an “athlete” transfer who gets buried on the bench or quits by January. Maybe stop with that strategy and give the spot to a true 3-point specialist or a pass-and-defend facilitating PG?

From your keyboard to God’s ears.

+1000000… maybe will learn a lesson with his recruiting now. 2 years in a row this has happened. We’ve had multiple other guys leave mid season or basically be benched but stay on and not help… those aRe super valuable roster spots.

I just don't understand why AK with 30 years NCAA coaching experience just does not take advice from message board warriors with zero coaching experience. (Sarcasm)

I think what he is doing is what he should be doing. Getting the best players he can and then letting things shake out when they get here.
If you insist on a pure "point guard" rather than the best player you might get a pretty big drop off in talent.

Last year, I was not really concerned when White left because in the 7 games he played I just did not think he brought much to the team. So I am a bit surprised he is averaging 19.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg and 35% from 3.
Part of it is New Orleans is 345 in Kenpom. That is swac level.

I was not ready to give up on Gordon even though he was our 9th guy. If any of our top 8 get injured or in foul trouble we will wish we had him.

As far as playing 10 guys. Sounds great except the talent level drops a good bit for #'s 9 and 10. (especially after Gordon)
And there also might be more cohesion when you are primarily playing with 7 other guys rather that 9.

True - then why do any of us waste time posting? Pretty lame argument.

Most of us know ball pretty well, even if we’ve never played or coached d1 lol. Anybody with common sense could see AKs teams could benefit from a point guard or reliable shooters.

When things break down our offense looks like a 2002 and 1 vhs mixtape. One guy dribbling with his head down ignoring the 4 other guys.
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