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They're the ones that have let us become laughable.

(12-18-2024 02:50 PM)Marathon Blazer Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 02:37 PM)biglizard Wrote:  So since Ted is going to read this at some point I'm going to make the assumption that both sides are relaying information as they see it. Let's take a look at the situation....

UAB has little or no media presence even in Birmingham. So concessions reported by Ted to BVP are not exactly bumping a credentialed media member out of a seat. Sure, by the letter he has no obligation to do anything with BVP. But there are plenty of available seats at any media event so having someone there to actually ask a question and report benefits UAB

BVP is self supporting. No check that, they lose their shirts (pun intended). In return for digging in their own pockets to produce content they give UAB more exposure. How much does UAB pay for this exposure? Nothing. Zero. Ziltch. All they ask is some consideration

So then there are the T shirts. I thought it was hilarious. Why you ask, Ted? Because it said what everyone was thinking. To tell us that it made fun of the department is intellectually dishonest. The department makes fun of the department. Everyone who tries to gaslight fans telling us there is "a plan" and that good times are ahead with current administration makes Baghdad Bob look like some kind of paragon of truth.

In short Ted, get over yourself

This.

If they didn’t like the shirts, they should’ve contacted them and asked them to pull them down before yanking credentials. If they didn’t take them down, then yank the credentials. Instead they revoked them & then asked they be put down. Problem is there’s probably less than 500 people that knows the source of the quote was our own head coach, who has never apologized for his condescending remarks toward his employer.

I mean, it's not like freakin' Alabama.......well that's what someone said anyway

It seems like Ted is right on this one?

(12-18-2024 04:22 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  It seems like Ted is right on this one?

I honestly don’t mind him revoking the rights of BVP to attend the pressers and certain media events because of the tshirts made. Fine, enforce that rule.

Where him and the athletic dept lose me is, he says the shirts were made to make fun of or belittle the athletic department, which gee, sounds like what it’d be called if a head coach at UAB were to say “this ain’t Alabama” or “go to Louisville if you want to play big time college volleyball” on a UAB platform. If BVP lost their media rights because they “belittled the athletic department” in their eyes, then shouldn’t Dilfer have been fired?

(12-18-2024 01:26 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I’m about to buy this damn shirt.

They have pulled them. I imagine that they don't want to further inflame the relationship.

(12-18-2024 03:20 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  What did the shirts say?

On one side they read "National Practice Champions". Obviously not a direct Dilfer quote, but at how many Coffees with Coach did he say some variant of "We had excellent practices all week. I don't understand why they don't carry over to game day."

On the other it said "It's not like we're freaking" over a map of Alabama.

(12-18-2024 04:47 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 01:26 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I’m about to buy this damn shirt.

They have pulled them. I imagine that they don't want to further inflame the relationship.

I dunno about that. If that's your mindset, I don't think you make a big deal on social media with all these text-graphics about it to get fans riled up.

I think there needs to be at least some self-reflection here about putting out something that could be seen as damaging to the UAB Athletics brand (even if it is funny and not nearly as damaging as the actual leadership currently in place). It's a tough tightrope to walk. Imagine if the shirt had gone viral and there were Barstool headlines like "UAB Football dogged by its own fansite" or something like that. I don't think the reaction from the UAB Athletics department would feel as outlandish.

I doubt that the "It's not like it's freakin' _____" shirt would've gone over well with Dilfer and staff, obviously....but that shirt alone wouldn't have been worth the headache they probably knew BVP would create with posts like this after the fact...but the National Practice Champions (again...funny) does lean more into making fun of one of your athletic programs.

This reeks strongly of Ted getting butthurt bc of someone actually calling out the horrible mismanagement of the athletics department that has been overseen by he and his boss.

BVP provides better, more thorough, and less biased coverage than any UAB-related outlet that I've found in 20+ years. They've also created a great community with their Patreon. They are true UAB fans and supporters. We have precious few people around that care as much about UAB as those guys...

(12-18-2024 04:44 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 04:22 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  It seems like Ted is right on this one?

I honestly don’t mind him revoking the rights of BVP to attend the pressers and certain media events because of the tshirts made. Fine, enforce that rule.

Where him and the athletic dept lose me is, he says the shirts were made to make fun of or belittle the athletic department, which gee, sounds like what it’d be called if a head coach at UAB were to say “this ain’t Alabama” or “go to Louisville if you want to play big time college volleyball” on a UAB platform. If BVP lost their media rights because they “belittled the athletic department” in their eyes, then shouldn’t Dilfer have been fired?

Pointing out double standards are you. Hate to see your season tickets revoked.

(12-18-2024 04:54 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  BVP provides better, more thorough, and less biased coverage than any UAB-related outlet that I've found in 20+ years. They've also created a great community with their Patreon. They are true UAB fans and supporters. We have precious few people around that care as much about UAB as those guys...

I think that you need to consider Steve Irvine's UAB coverage at the Birmingham Banner as well.

(12-18-2024 04:54 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 04:47 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 01:26 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I’m about to buy this damn shirt.

They have pulled them. I imagine that they don't want to further inflame the relationship.

I dunno about that. If that's your mindset, I don't think you make a big deal on social media with all these text-graphics about it to get fans riled up.

I think there needs to be at least some self-reflection here about putting out something that could be seen as damaging to the UAB Athletics brand (even if it is funny and not nearly as damaging as the actual leadership currently in place). It's a tough tightrope to walk. Imagine if the shirt had gone viral and there were Barstool headlines like "UAB Football dogged by its own fansite" or something like that. I don't think the reaction from the UAB Athletics department would feel as outlandish.

I doubt that the "It's not like it's freakin' _____" shirt would've gone over well with Dilfer and staff, obviously....but that shirt alone wouldn't have been worth the headache they probably knew BVP would create with posts like this after the fact...but the National Practice Champions (again...funny) does lean more into making fun of one of your athletic programs.

The practice quote originated with Dilfer. I hope he still gets to go to pressers. Oh wait on second thought....

(12-18-2024 04:57 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 04:54 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  BVP provides better, more thorough, and less biased coverage than any UAB-related outlet that I've found in 20+ years. They've also created a great community with their Patreon. They are true UAB fans and supporters. We have precious few people around that care as much about UAB as those guys...

I think that you need to consider Steve Irvine's UAB coverage at the Birmingham Banner as well.

I like Steve, but he kind of lost me when he vehemently took up for Clark (coincidentally on the original BVP podcast) after he didn't go for it on 4th and inches to win the game against UTSA and go to the CUSA championship game. He basically called anyone who took umbrage with Clark for that bad decision a dummy and a keyboard warrior. After that, I couldn't take anything he said super seriously, bc I always felt like he was toeing the official UAB line.

Man, that was a hell of a football game. I'm ok with the decision not to go, but I'm also ok if we did run it with Debo. The drive UTSA put together to win it was wild. The sad thing is, I remember that being the most heartbroken I've ever been over a UAB Football game. And the way things are going, I may never get to feel that way again.

While we're all expressing our frustration and aggrievement toward the leadership of the athletic department and football program on this thread and others, I would conjecture that very few of us on this forum have any real influence. There are people, however, who do: the monied boosters who live in a tax bracket most of us do not. What are they doing to right the sinking ship of UAB athletics? I have seen no evidence they are doing anything. I am extremely disappointed that they have not done more to facilitate the ouster of Mark Ingram and Trent Dilfer.

I am as disappointed in and as angry at the monied boosters as I am in Ingram or Watts.

If you were a monied booster, why would you contribute to an AD who sucks, won’t take your input, and doubles down on his mistakes.

(12-18-2024 05:35 PM)BlazeOn Wrote:  While we're all expressing our frustration and aggrievement toward the leadership of the athletic department and football program on this thread and others, I would conjecture that very few of us on this forum have any real influence. There are people, however, who do: the monied boosters who live in a tax bracket most of us do not. What are they doing to right the sinking ship of UAB athletics? I have seen no evidence they are doing anything. I am extremely disappointed that they have not done more to facilitate the ouster of Mark Ingram and Trent Dilfer.

I am as disappointed in and as angry at the monied boosters as I am in Ingram or Watts.

Sorry to quote pumpkinhead, but you don't know what you don't know. I don't know deets, just that there have been discussions.

(12-19-2024 11:19 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 05:35 PM)BlazeOn Wrote:  While we're all expressing our frustration and aggrievement toward the leadership of the athletic department and football program on this thread and others, I would conjecture that very few of us on this forum have any real influence. There are people, however, who do: the monied boosters who live in a tax bracket most of us do not. What are they doing to right the sinking ship of UAB athletics? I have seen no evidence they are doing anything. I am extremely disappointed that they have not done more to facilitate the ouster of Mark Ingram and Trent Dilfer.

I am as disappointed in and as angry at the monied boosters as I am in Ingram or Watts.

Sorry to quote pumpkinhead, but you don't know what you don't know. I don't know deets, just that there have been discussions.

What kind of discussions?

Not totally unexpected response from UAB if these guys were kind of technically skating on the rules. The biggest problem I have is that this is literally the only consequence anyone has faced for Dilfer's comments

(12-18-2024 03:33 PM)58-56 Wrote:  And one more note. Ever hear of ESPN BET? Here you go, off their site: ESPN BET is a newly-branded online sportsbook operated by PENN Entertainment that combines ESPN's industry-leading brand and multiplatform reach with PENN Entertainment's proprietary in-house technology and deep sportsbook operational expertise.

Why did I quote that? Because your credentials policy also bars ESPN, ABC and Disney from holding UAB press credentials.

I think we all know that at a certain size you can skirt around the rules, but even so ESPN Bet is not ESPN, they licensed their name to Penn Gaming so if we're going to get ultra technical, ESPN Bet might be barred but not ESPN nor any entities of Disney

Also, if al.com were selling those shirts I don't think they'd immediately revoke credentials, but I guarantee there'd be a phone call to an editor or whatever person they have in charge since I don't think they actually have editors there

(12-19-2024 11:40 AM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  

(12-19-2024 11:19 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(12-18-2024 05:35 PM)BlazeOn Wrote:  While we're all expressing our frustration and aggrievement toward the leadership of the athletic department and football program on this thread and others, I would conjecture that very few of us on this forum have any real influence. There are people, however, who do: the monied boosters who live in a tax bracket most of us do not. What are they doing to right the sinking ship of UAB athletics? I have seen no evidence they are doing anything. I am extremely disappointed that they have not done more to facilitate the ouster of Mark Ingram and Trent Dilfer.

I am as disappointed in and as angry at the monied boosters as I am in Ingram or Watts.

Sorry to quote pumpkinhead, but you don't know what you don't know. I don't know deets, just that there have been discussions.

What kind of discussions?

among the monied boosters.

(12-19-2024 01:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Not totally unexpected response from UAB if these guys were kind of technically skating on the rules. The biggest problem I have is that this is literally the only consequence anyone has faced for Dilfer's comments

(12-18-2024 03:33 PM)58-56 Wrote:  And one more note. Ever hear of ESPN BET? Here you go, off their site: ESPN BET is a newly-branded online sportsbook operated by PENN Entertainment that combines ESPN's industry-leading brand and multiplatform reach with PENN Entertainment's proprietary in-house technology and deep sportsbook operational expertise.

Why did I quote that? Because your credentials policy also bars ESPN, ABC and Disney from holding UAB press credentials.

I think we all know that at a certain size you can skirt around the rules, but even so ESPN Bet is not ESPN, they licensed their name to Penn Gaming so if we're going to get ultra technical, ESPN Bet might be barred but not ESPN nor any entities of Disney

Also, if al.com were selling those shirts I don't think they'd immediately revoke credentials, but I guarantee there'd be a phone call to an editor or whatever person they have in charge since I don't think they actually have editors there

The policy says, "in any way affiliated with gambling." When you give someone your name, you are affiliated with them (else selling them the name, and linking them on your highly-trafficked site, has no value). But yeah, nothing's going to happen. Someone yelled at Ted, and as happens, **** rolled downhill.

He should be glad they weren't selling Dilfdo of Doom™ shirts.