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(12-05-2024 07:12 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  Amare Thomas to the portal.

We talked about this being likely. Probably watch for Shanks and Milliner, too.
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IT IS gonna be a big lost but he was not as good this year
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(12-05-2024 09:32 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  IT IS gonna be a big lost but he was not as good this year

Didn’t feel like he got a deserved amount of targets. Shanks became the go-to guy.

In fairness, pass protect was bad. So, every pass play was designed for someone underneath with nobody to run a go-route like Palmer did.
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(12-05-2024 09:32 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  IT IS gonna be a big lost but he was not as good this year

I’ll never forget the game he had against Georgia last year as a true freshman.

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(12-05-2024 09:32 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  IT IS gonna be a big lost but he was not as good this year

His stats say otherwise. At no point do I want us losing a player like this headed into his junior season. Next season may be the worst in UAB history, by a wide margin, and that’s a tough list to top.
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(12-06-2024 08:28 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(12-05-2024 09:32 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  IT IS gonna be a big lost but he was not as good this year

His stats say otherwise. At no point do I want us losing a player like this headed into his junior season. Next season may be the worst in UAB history, by a wide margin, and that’s a tough list to top.

I hate to see us lose a player of his quality also. Unfortunately, with the current state of pay for play collegiate athletics, I see this becoming more routine.
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Hard to make an impact when you rarely target the guy. He was Zenos go to guy. Kitna not so much.
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(12-06-2024 11:04 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Hard to make an impact when you rarely target the guy. He was Zenos go to guy. Kitna not so much.

I want to know if there was any locker room drama with Kitna as QB. A QB with cp charges, he's only playing because his NFL QB daddy is friends with Dilfer.

Wouldn't surprise me if players did not like him for both reasons.
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I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.
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Kitna was still a 4 star that signed with a major SEC school.
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(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

With his dad who he is, with the success in high school getting him drafted by Florida, that no one has ever forced this kid to walk around school with a football duct-taped to his throwing hand is a surprise. It's either that or tuck the ball away like you learn with you're 12. He runs like he's carrying the baton in a relay.
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(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.
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(12-06-2024 01:54 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.

At least you didn’t recklessly call him “diddler”.
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(12-06-2024 01:54 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.

1. There was a process. You don't know what you don't know is true sometimes (you just shouldn't say it out loud).

2. If something really embarrasses me I don't mention it 2 dozen times a day, every day, with a free baker's dozen thrown in on gameday.
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The thing with Kitna's charges is that we don't know the details. Was it actual kiddie porn on his phone, or did someone share nudes his underage girlfriend sent him? All I can do is trust that the coaching staff looked at what happened before making the decision to recruit him. The biggest problem with that is that my trust in Dilfer is at an all time low.

I just don't feel good about attacking the kid over it while knowing none of the details beyond charges that were later plea bargained down.
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(12-06-2024 03:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  The thing with Kitna's charges is that we don't know the details. Was it actual kiddie porn on his phone, or did someone share nudes his underage girlfriend sent him? All I can do is trust that the coaching staff looked at what happened before making the decision to recruit him. The biggest problem with that is that my trust in Dilfer is at an all time low.

I just don't feel good about attacking the kid over it while knowing none of the details beyond charges that were later plea bargained down.

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(12-06-2024 02:47 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 01:54 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.

1. There was a process. You don't know what you don't know is true sometimes (you just shouldn't say it out loud).

2. If something really embarrasses me I don't mention it 2 dozen times a day, every day, with a free baker's dozen thrown in on gameday.

1. Yes there was a process and he plead no contest. Take that for what it is worth. Apparently it wasn't a big issue with UAB, but was it for every other program? I still believe that he is only here because of his father's relationship with Dilfer.
IF you can tell me any other P4 or AAC offers that he received after he was released from Florida (besides UAB) then I will shut up about it, but for now all I see is that he is here because of nepotism.

2. As soon as he got the start against Tulane, the first thing the ESPN announcers talked about was that he was dropped from Florida due to his cp charges. Any one else that recognizes his name when they see he plays for UAB mentions, 'oh yeah the cp charged QB from Florida? damn didn't know he is playing again'.
All the national media mention in their articles about Dilfer. So it's not just a few irate UAB fans mentioning it, everyone is mentioning. So again Dilfer is brought even more bad press to this program.

And yes, I know other UAB players have had legal issues, but we either dropped them from the team or they went the JUCO route.

For Ingram to want to micromanage every other coach, he seems to let Dilfer do whatever the hell he wants including getting the controversial Kitna, hiring coaches with zero college coaching experience, and screwing up our uniforms and colors. Dilfer has not earned the right to do all that.
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(12-06-2024 01:54 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.

1. There was a process. You don't know what you don't know is true sometimes (you just shouldn't say it out loud).

2. If something really embarrasses me I don't mention it 2 dozen times a day, every day, with a free baker's dozen thrown in on gameday.

1. Yes there was a process and he plead no contest. Take that for what it is worth. Apparently it wasn't a big issue with UAB, but was it for every other program? I still believe that he is only here because of his father's relationship with Dilfer.
IF you can tell me any other P4 or AAC offers that he received after he was released from Florida (besides UAB) then I will shut up about it, but for now all I see is that he is here because of nepotism.

2. As soon as he got the start against Tulane, the first thing the ESPN announcers talked about was that he was dropped from Florida due to his cp charges. Any one else that recognizes his name when they see he plays for UAB mentions, 'oh yeah the cp charged QB from Florida? damn didn't know he is playing again'.
All the national media mention in their articles about Dilfer. So it's not just a few irate UAB fans mentioning it, everyone is mentioning. So again Dilfer is brought even more bad press to this program.

And yes, I know other UAB players have had legal issues, but we either dropped them from the team or they went the JUCO route.

For Ingram to want to micromanage every other coach, he seems to let Dilfer do whatever the hell he wants including getting the controversial Kitna, hiring coaches with zero college coaching experience, and screwing up our uniforms and colors. Dilfer has not earned the right to do all that.

I didn't say "if something embarrasses me I don't let it be mentioned constantly." I said "I don't mention it..." I mean, what's your point and why does it have to be made over and over and over and over again?
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(12-06-2024 03:27 PM)C-Finder Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 03:06 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  The thing with Kitna's charges is that we don't know the details. Was it actual kiddie porn on his phone, or did someone share nudes his underage girlfriend sent him? All I can do is trust that the coaching staff looked at what happened before making the decision to recruit him. The biggest problem with that is that my trust in Dilfer is at an all time low.

I just don't feel good about attacking the kid over it while knowing none of the details beyond charges that were later plea bargained down.

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(12-06-2024 03:37 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
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(12-06-2024 01:54 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(12-06-2024 12:31 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I disagree that he was "only" playing because he was friends with his dad. NO question that is why he is on the team. Kitna has all the tools and a much stronger arm than Zeno. His has shown flashes of becoming a good quarterback coupled with making boneheaded mistakes. Zeno also turned it over a lot. I know it doesn't fit the narrative but I see no reason to pile on just to make Dilfer look worse. If he would just stop fumbling, I could live with some of the picks which were being too aggressive. That can be coached out of him.

If I had to choose between Zeno & Kitna next season, I'd go with Kitna. Glad Zeno left where he could go get some PT hopefully.

Are y'all not embarrassed of his charges? When he first got the start, ESPN announcers brought up his charges in the first few games. We are already getting bad press and that adds to the stain. Local media aren't bringing this up, besides Joe Goodman, but national media always include it.

If Kitna was such a great 4-star, then why didn't smaller P4 schools offer him? Why isn't he playing at Kentucky, Purdue, Wake Forest, etc? And I mean the only reason he is starting for us is because Dilfer was the only coach willing to give a CP charged QB a second chance. So Dilfer was supposed to be this QB whisperer and the only 4-star QB he could get is cp charged QB that is the son of his NFL QB buddy.

It would be different (for some but not me) if he ended up the best QB in the conference, but he isn't even Top 5? We also have 8 QBs yet he only started Zeno and Kitna. Why have 8 QBs if you are only going to start 2.


This is just another reason why Dilfer needs fired. He could not get either of his Lipscomb QBs or any of his former players, but instead got a controversial QB to help out his NFL buddy.

1. There was a process. You don't know what you don't know is true sometimes (you just shouldn't say it out loud).

2. If something really embarrasses me I don't mention it 2 dozen times a day, every day, with a free baker's dozen thrown in on gameday.

1. Yes there was a process and he plead no contest. Take that for what it is worth. Apparently it wasn't a big issue with UAB, but was it for every other program? I still believe that he is only here because of his father's relationship with Dilfer.
IF you can tell me any other P4 or AAC offers that he received after he was released from Florida (besides UAB) then I will shut up about it, but for now all I see is that he is here because of nepotism.

2. As soon as he got the start against Tulane, the first thing the ESPN announcers talked about was that he was dropped from Florida due to his cp charges. Any one else that recognizes his name when they see he plays for UAB mentions, 'oh yeah the cp charged QB from Florida? damn didn't know he is playing again'.
All the national media mention in their articles about Dilfer. So it's not just a few irate UAB fans mentioning it, everyone is mentioning. So again Dilfer is brought even more bad press to this program.

And yes, I know other UAB players have had legal issues, but we either dropped them from the team or they went the JUCO route.

For Ingram to want to micromanage every other coach, he seems to let Dilfer do whatever the hell he wants including getting the controversial Kitna, hiring coaches with zero college coaching experience, and screwing up our uniforms and colors. Dilfer has not earned the right to do all that.

I've talked about this before on here, and I'll talk about once more, hopefully for the last time. I'll preface by saying I don't care one way or the other about Kitna as a QB. I'm not defending him as a player, not defending bringing him onto the team, or really even defending him as a person. Never met the guy. And I also want to add that this is a topic I know a great deal about. People who know me and know what I do can tell anyone who doesn't that this is something I have knowledge of and experience with.

The realm of child pornography investigations and prosecutions is a myriad of shades of gray. There are guys who spend inordinate amounts of time browsing the dark web on their Tor browser downloading literally thousands of the most sickening, vile, and disturbing sh!t you can imagine (a large portion of which originates overseas), or worse yet producing it themselves and sharing it on the dark web. And those guys frequently get sentenced to 20 or 30 years in federal prison without anyone blinking and eye, as they should be. Then there are 17 year old girls who send photos of themselves to their boyfriends, the girl's dad finds out and wants the boyfriend prosecuted for possession child pornography. And then there are the infinite situations that fall in between those two extremes, those myriad shades of gray I mentioned.

The question here is, where does Kitna's case fall along that spectrum? Based on the facts we know, he didn't produce these 3 pictures himself, didn't know the girls depicted in them, etc. They didn't find thousands of images and videos on a computer in his basement. And yes, he pled no contest - to a charge of disorderly conduct. That's basically a speeding ticket. I can read between the lines and tell you what happened. It was a weak case, and the state's attorney saved a little face by getting a withheld adjudication on a charge that carries a max of probably 30 days in county, a couple thousand dollars in fines, has no underlying sexual motivation and, importantly, is not subject to SORNA laws.

I say all that to say, the charges against him don't bother me as much as his inability to play QB all that well. I understand what the stigma and notoriety of allegations like this can do to people, sometimes to people that don't deserve it. But child pornography is one of those things that if you aren't someone unlucky enough to have been involved in stuff like this, you don't understand the nuance that CAN exist in a particular case, and the topic is such a visceral and disturbing one that it can be hard for people to accept that fact.

And again, I don't know the kid. He might be a first class a-hole. But the charge against him to me doesn't move the needle.
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2024 04:24 PM by BatesUAB.)
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