(01-21-2023 04:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-21-2023 03:52 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-21-2023 01:33 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  People who make this argument act like USCLA never subjected their student athletes to travel. Big time college athletes in any sport travel a LOT. If you're on a coast then you'll travel more, that's just how it goes. And when you're in the bottom left corner of the country, you're going to travel the most, even if you decide to stay in the Pac. So, it wasn't a decision of "never leave LA vs insane travel 24/7/365", but more like "800 miles average flight per conference game vs 1500 miles average flight per conference game".

UCLA in basketball this year played at Maryland on Dec 14, then they played Kentucky at MSG on Dec 17. You don't think they'll be able to economize basketball travel like that once they join the B1G? It will end up being 4-5 big trips per year, vs the 2-3 big trips per year they've been taking to the PNW every year in the Pac.

All they did was add 90 minutes to 4 or 5 flights per year for their football and basketball teams. Is it a struggle? Yes. Is it that much greater of a struggle than their current travel? No, it's a small increase that helps to ensure that they can continue to fund women's beach volleyball, women's soccer, lacrosse, etc etc, whatever sports they want, while also helping them to remain nationally relevant in basketball and football.

There are certainly things you can do to ease the logistics. Is women's volleyball traveling with the men's BBall team? If it's co-ed that may lead to off field issues. But let's talk about the traveling issues for every sport, not just men's BBall... what is the B1G playing fall/winter/spring where you can overlap or combine the travel for the LA schools.

BBall and Volleyball overlap.
Soccer (co-ed travel or may partially overlap with BBall but not sure)
Hockey probably not relevant for LA schools
Gymnastics and individual sports? Again, all the schedules have to align with the sporting events in terms of time of year played plus the scheduling for the respective schools involved.

So we need to know what sports are being cut as a result of this move (or added) and who is playing what and where. While it's not an impossible problem, it's a logistical nightmare that will require A LOT more personnel and overhead. We'll see just how profitable the move becomes in the years ahead.

As I pointed out, you people are just way overestimating how many sports will be impacted by this. Going to a conference meet at the end of the season is not an issue. Everybody travels some.

Football, basketball, soccer, baseball/softball and volleyball. That's it. And football is not a big change from the Pac. Looked up flight times-LA to Seattle is 2:43. LA to Chicago is 3:57. They just have a little longer flights the day before and the day after the game. With weekend scheduling, soccer, baseball/softball and volleyball don't have much more impact than football.

You're cherry picking the farthest trip USC/UCLA have to make in the PAC which they each make, what, maybe once a year for football if you include Wazzu as well. It's also 1:30 to Phoenix and SF, 1:55 to SLC, 2:25 to Denver and 2:30 to Portland; all very manageable.

Every Big Ten road trip outside of the crosstown game is going to be 2-3 time zones. As you said, it's 4 hours to Chicago. 4:20 to Detroit. 4:25 to Columbus. 4:40 to Pittsburgh. 4:45 to DC. 5:20 to NYC. Also you can tack on about 40 minutes to an hour on those return flights back to LA due to jet streams.