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RE: Realistic options for Pac-12 going forward.
(01-21-2023 11:32 PM)Jeff Smithers Wrote:  
(01-21-2023 06:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-21-2023 06:17 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote:  
(01-21-2023 06:08 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(01-21-2023 04:47 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote:  The way I see it right now, there are 18 programs that have the resources and capability to recruit at the level necessary to consistently compete for championships in football. They are:

ACC (3) - FSU, Clemson, Miami
Big Ten (4) - Michigan, OSU, PSU, USC
Big 12 (0)
Independent (1) - Notre Dame
Pac 12 (1) - Oregon
SEC (9) - Bama, Auburn, UGA, Texas, A&M, OU, LSU, Tennessee, Florida

That list could change slightly over time (20 years ago, Clemson wouldn't have been on it and Nebraska would have), but most of those are mainstays and it's a tough club to break into.

This is a good list. It is similar to the 2019 Forbes Top 25 Most Valuable College football schools, with Miami being the only school that did not make it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/...f187da2e7e

Others in the Forbes list:
South Carolina / SEC
Arkansas / SEC
Mississippi / SEC
Washington / Pac-12
Nebraska / Big Ten
Iowa / Big Ten
Michigan State / Big Ten
Wisconsin / Big Ten

With NIL, the 12-team playoff and the transfer portal, this list could expand.
I don't know about expand, but you'll see a lot more schools outside that 18-team list making fun runs when the stars align like TCU did this year (although as an SMU fan there was nothing fun about it).

If you took the 2020-1 gross total revenue totals the SEC counting incoming members would have had 13 of their 16 members in the top 25 in earnings. Only Missouri, Mississippi State and Vanderbilt and Vandy would have been 28th and Miss State 33rd while Missouri was 49th.

The Big 10 would have 5 counting incoming members: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, U.S.C., and U.C.L.A.

The Big 12 would have had 1, TCU at 24th.

The ACC would have had Louisville, Clemson, Duke, and Virginia in positions 21, 22, 23, and 25 respectively. Notre Dame would have been 12th.

The PAC 12 would have had 1 #14 Stanford.

Both the Big 12 and PAC 12 would have three if departing schools were not included in their new homes.

Normally FSU would have been in the top 15 somewhere. This is the last year for which I have data and 2021-2 fiscal year will be out when taxes are in. I expect it to help the Big 10 land a couple more schools in the top 25 and the SEC could lose 1 but the remainder which reside in the other 3 conferences will shrink. (not counting OU, UT, USC, USCLA in those conferences). Washington and Oregon most non COVID years will be in the top 25, as would FSU. Most normal years Va Tech would be ahead of Virginia but only Louisville, besides FSU, would be in the top 25. Clemson hangs between 23rd and 30th with fluctuations due to playoff money.

Using the 2020-2021 revenue numbers seems odd considering that was the covid year. The B1G and Pac 12 had their media cash flows lowered that year because of their shortened season. Wouldn't the 2019-2020 numbers provide better data to use for this comparison?



The rankings should still be accurate unless you think that some schools in the COVID year had their revenues lowered more than other schools did.
01-22-2023 04:26 PM
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