(01-18-2023 03:18 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 01:10 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 12:59 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 11:21 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(01-17-2023 11:45 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Correct. Most likely path forward (and best path forward)---stand pat at 10 with a short GOR that allows Oregon and Washington to bail in 4 or 5 years.

The second best path---only necessary if the networks demand 12 team inventory----is adding SDSU and SMU to return to 12. That adds two massive TV markets and gets the Pac12 Network into Texas (meaning a roughly 50% increase in the number of "in market" cable boxes). The league probably falls apart in 5 years---but SDSU and SMU would make that move because even the league they are left with in the end will be better than where they are.

Best case for the Pac12 after another Big10 raid and the 4-corners defection----the final version of the Pac12 will be built around Stanford, Cal, OSU, WSU, SDSU, and SMU----returning to 12 by taking 6 from the a fairly decent replacement pool that includes Boise, Fresno, Air Force, CSU, UNLV, New Mexico, UTSA, Wyoming, Rice, Tulsa, and Tulane. Worst case---the Pac12 is rebuilding from a core of OSU,WSU, SMU, and SDSU to get back to 12 (using the same replacement pool as before).

Is the PAC seriously going to keep alive its network? The only reason why they would even consider doing so is some super extreme case of the sunk cost fallacy.

Probably about 10% of cable subscribers in the PAC states themselves can get the PAC12N. (Forget about outside the PAC states.) And the network if anything is even more impossible to access for streamers.

I strongly suspect that USC would never have left the PAC if they hadn't created that awful network.

The Pac12 network needs to do two things. It needs to expand its reach into Texas---because thats the only western state with a population large enough to make any real difference. Secondly---it needs to take a major network partner that can give the P12 network the kind of leverage it needs to gain carriage on the majority of cable systems across the nation. They would probably have to give away 50% of the ownership to do so----but its the only way to make the Pac12 Network revenue start to look more like the other P5 conference networks. The go it alone Pac-12 Network experiment has failed.

It’s really too late for the PAC Network to find a partner. The ACC was barely able to get ESPN to agree to partner with them in 2016. That was when cord cutting had just barely started.

And lol if you think SMU would get the PAC network into Texas. They’d probably just barely be able to bring the network into the Dallas-Fort Worth market, but certainly not Texas as a whole.


The solution to the PAC network is just to completely kill it.

DFW has as many people as the 2nd largest State in the Pac, I think they'd be happy with that. Though it is fun to consider a Pac with SMU, UTSA, and Rice, that would get coverage everywhere certainly, and provide a large-enough footprint that people in the State would take them seriously.

Fun to think about but would never happened for obvious reasons. Regarding SMU, the DFW area is irrelevant if no one in the DFW area cares enough about SMU and the PAC to watch it. I don’t see that changing.