(04-30-2023 09:26 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Name one relevant problem with the MAL issue, grounded in and backed by fact.

My issue with MAL is one of perspective... and one I know you don't share Tanq and that doesn't in any way make you wrong and me right, or the alternative.

Trump came into office with the absolute 'charge' that the system was corrupt. He wasn't so much complaining that the wealthy took advantage of it. He was complaining that the people in charge kept saying this in order to rile up their voters, but then they NEVER would do anything about it... because they too took advantage of it,...

In response, 'the system' has come after him with a vengeance. Charging him with things that others (including those coming after him) have done for decades... and SOME that they were doing concurrently... i.e. The DNC in 2016 was colluding more with Russia and other foreign agents to spread false information than Trump did, yet there were historically invasive (wire taps, aggressive prosecution for 'petty' things to get people to 'turn state's evidence' etc) against Trump, while 'the system' quite literally engaged in disinformation campaigns... including paying millions and providing unprecedented access to social media for spreading 'official' news.

That's what I've seen with my own eyes. There can be other perspectives, but what I've seen cannot be denied. SHOULD the FBI have raided MAL after Trump refused/mislead/what have you?? Yes... but they NEVER would have done that to Biden.... with the biggest evidence being that he left office some 7 years ago now... with ALL SORTS of 'classified documents'... and despite I'm 100% certain being asked if he had any... and I'm 100% certain being told 'no I don't'... these SAME PEOPLE simply took Biden at his word... DESPITE the fact that his son was clearly a security risk AND had numerus 'shady' connections and sources of SIGNIFICANT income. Nobody arrested him and tried to get him to turn on his father. Nobody tapped his phones, etc etc etc,

Yes, Trump brought a lot of this on himself... I get that... but when 'the system' is what is being fought... and 'it' fights back... after 5 years of that, I don't blame Trump for getting frustrated and pissed off... and flipping 'the system' off.

Tanq is a 'do the right thing' kind of guy and I get that... but literally nobody else is. The left thinks its okay to riot and destroy public property and attack police in order to correct 'injustice'. They think its okay to LITERALLY create false news and collude with corrupt foreign governments to maintain the status quo. They think its okay to 'trade' on 'access to public officials' while casting aspersions at Trump and Clarence Thomas for lesser things.....

and while I get that Tanq would prefer to have his representative remain above the fray and fight 'clean'... and that is admirable in many ways... That is not a 'winning' strategy today. You don't have to go as far as Trump, by any means... but you absolutely can't just sit back and take it either. You need to fight... and if your opponent is throwing pitches 3 inches off the plate and the umpire is calling it a strike... meanwhile your pitches at the knees are being called 'balls' a) you damn well better start swinging at that pitch off the plate b) you better start throwing your own pitches there and c) you better stop expecting to get the strike at the knees

'Fair' and 'equitable' are not the same thing... and right now, the system is neither fair nor equitable.

Said simply, but its bigger than this... what bothers me isn't that they're going aggressively against Trump. What bothers me is that they HAVEN'T gone remotely as aggreesively against anyone else prior to this. Capricious enforcement of laws is no different than any of those other 'systemic -isms' that people complain about. If this had been done all along, then Trump likely never runs for office... and most of this other stuff that is collapsing our society never happens.


You're right that this stuff should be enforced....
But it's not being enforced. It's been weaponized. It is now a tool solely of those in power... FOR those in power.