(08-22-2022 09:35 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 09:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 09:13 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 09:11 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Do you believe anyone has to have special considerations and special outcomes in the law?

Yes, I have seen it played out time and again by our special politicians usually of the Democratic party variety.

I dont think you answered the question posed.

I did not ask 'do you believe anyone has special considerations' --

I will rewrite to emphasize the question -- "Do you believe that anyone has to have, or is entitled to, special considerations and special outcomes in the law?"

I will tell you there are a few, but with very good justification. But in general, I do not.

Quote:Do you believe that any two private citizens are entitled to equal treatment under the law?

No, depends on how much money Private Citizen A has as opposed to how poor Private Citizen B is.

Again, I dont think you answered the question asked. I did not ask "Do you think people get equal treatment under the law", which is seemingly the answer you give above.

I think "Do you think that any two private citizens are entitled to be treated equally?" might be a better way to phrase it.

Yes I did. You see my opinion of the questions is not reality therefore my morally correct answer has no value.

So, to be straight, you think as a general matter "that there are some who are entitled to special considerations and special outcomes in the law?" -- your answer to this paraphrase was "yes" that you think some are entitled to special considerations and special outcomes in the law.

My opinion matter NOT. That is the way it is whether you or I like it or not. Saw it over and over as a young man working as a parole officer.

And further you do not think that "any two private citizens are entitled to be treated equally"? I find that to be a moral truism, and should be what is strived for. There is no reason why one general private citizen should be treated any different than another. Oddly, I have never even heard of someone who has an opinion that they should not be.

Semantics at best. What you describe doesn't translate into the reality of our legal system. Unequal treatment happens every day. Doesn't matter what you or I think its reality.

Im not asking you reality, nor what you think is reality. Please read. And no, far from semantics.

You are a man of faith ostensibly. Therefore you must think in terms of what to strive for and in morals. Here, you seemingly choose to dodge the question of 'striving for' and/or a moral stance.

Why are you so defensive in wishing to answer a question on a moral stance in the terms of the law?

Criminy, being *in* the legal system I acknowledge inequalities. I dont stamp my feet and ignore them and refuse to answer questions, let alone strive, for a more just situation.

It seems sad that you cannot acknowledge a moral outcome that is something that would be good to strive for. And here, you cant even answer a question on it. So be it. As you say many times -- not a good look.